re: Is there such thing as a basic human right?

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These aren’t absolute rights.

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Yes, they are.

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Why?

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Read the book and find out.

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Affordable housing in your price range is always do-able.

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Are you aware that poverty exists? Have you heard of the working poor? Not trying to be snarky, but you must live a very sheltered and charmed life. Like you’ve never known a poor person?

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No one has an absolute right to life

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Explain

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. This is a discussion. I’m not demanding everyone subscribe to my interpretation of a right but I have yet to see a convincing argument be made to change my mind. You will see countless of my posts questioning other people’s definitions with zero responses to them because, presumably, the ops don’t have a valid argument or answer.

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I believe I have tried multiple times to have this conversation with you .
And I've been as respectful as anyone could expect me to be given that you've ignored me for months on this very subject.

But I am still willing
you pick the

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right

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will take it one at a time

Moral /ethical /political make your argument for the right.. healthcare, transportation, high ed
that the government provides free to all its citizens, or non-citizens if you want to make that a position, And I'm not assigning it to you i'm giving you the choice.

respectfully



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Point out where I was wrong in saying that everyone in this country can walk into a hospital emergency room and get healthcare and they don't have to prove the ability to pay and they don't have to prove their residency

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Prove me wrong that no one in this country is homeless except by choice because there will be accommodations made for you if someone asks,
if you agree to the rules of residency which often are as simple as you can't have drugs you can't have a weapon and in emergencies you may have to leave your pet with someone else
And I'm not suggesting that it is easy especially for those with mental illness and addiction because of it so not saying it's easy but prove to me that I'm wrong .

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Abortion exists. Murders and suicides happen every day.

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Violations of someone's rights doesn't mean they never had it.

Abortion is an injustice because it violates the right to life of the unborn.

Murder is an injustice because it violates the right to life of the victim.

Honestly this is a weak argument, if you argued you lose your right to life when you attack someone I could see that argument. But violations of the right to life doesn't mean it's not absolute, just that in society some people's rights are not protected. And the fact that in many states it is legal to violate someone's right to life by abortion is a grave injustice

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Is there such thing as a basic human right?

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Rights are socially constructed,

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So.... No.

If rights HAVE to be socially constructed and

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It’s also safe to say that US has different ideas about human rights than other Western countries.

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Is true. I would say your definition points to no basic rights, and only social rights. Which is why something so basic, like the right to life, can be "socially constructed," to be in contestation.

The problem is using man as your basis here, and not something else.


I would say there are natural rights, that are beyond man's social agreement, but not sure many would agree. Especially not someone who says that housing is a human right. That's ridiculous if they don't first support a right to life.

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Question if you are pro-choice and can kill an unborn child

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I’ve never professed to be pro-abortion.

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And the fact that in many states it is legal to violate someone's right to life by abortion is a grave injustice

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I agree with this. I do think there is such thing as Justice, which I relate to human dignity which is God-given.

The idea of rights stems from classic liberalism. It is the idea that you have the right to your property.

Your body being your property means you have the right to self defense by the most effective means available.

Your mind is your property therefore you have the right to express it.

Housing is a right only if you provide it for yourself.

You have the right to not have your property taken and can defend it with force.

Property is a right only if you provide it for yourself (property being anything from land to a t-shirt).

Healthcare is a right only if you can provide it for yourself. Free healthcare steals the property of others either by stealing his labor or the monetary property of others who compensated the cost.

Rights, for the sake of ease, are God given. They are natural.