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re: Is there any realistic democratic candidate you could see defeating Trump in 2020?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:58 am to Ebbandflow
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:58 am to Ebbandflow
Anyone who believes trump’s background is only “entertainer” is either ignorant or dishonest
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:12 am to YankeeBama
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Booker
Country hopefully wouldn't fall for another black Muslim Alinskyite?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:43 am to YankeeBama
Corey Booker is gay and will get blasted in the general election if he makes it out of the primary.
And Im a Democrat
And Im a Democrat
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:45 am to Jeb Busch Lite
It only took me a few minutes reading this thread to realize how delusional some posters here are. Barring something catastrophic.
Ain't nobody beating Trump in 2020. Nobody.
Ain't nobody beating Trump in 2020. Nobody.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:46 am to bencoleman
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Ain't nobody beating Trump in 2020. Nobody.
Thank you
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:51 am to Jeb Busch Lite
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If the stock market keeps soaring and he keeps bringing jobs back to America, I would think he'd win in pretty much a landslide. Is there even anybody that you could see giving him a run for his money? Warren would get embarrassed and I know there has been a recent surge about Booker.
quote:Jamie Dimon.
Is there any realistic democratic candidate you could see defeating Trump in 2020?
But there's virtually no chance Dems get him to run, much less nominate him.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:05 am to GeorgeWest
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the average of polling clearly shows Trump's approval rating less than 40%.
we have claimed for years that polls are not used to show real information, but rather, to manipulate the narrative
these last few elections proved it
especially the GA 6 polls
Trump has more support than when he was elected because he has kept his promises & the economy is better
people vote their pocketbook
incumbents tend to do well and are hard to beat; again, especially when economic times are good
but you keep telling yourself whatever you need to help you sleep at night
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:23 am to TDsngumbo
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Y'all will laugh as usual, but I remain steadfast in my belief that Joe Biden would crush Trump. He can pull the blue collar votes from Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin that trump was able to lure in 2016.
I agree with you here
Jim Webb of Virginia could also do it
but a typical democrat won;t be able to
because Trump owns that union / white working class vote
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:40 am to TDsngumbo
quote:
Joe Biden
Will DNC allow
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:01 am to kcon70
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Michael Obama?
correct...been saying this for a year....pretty obvious to me....I don't care what the Obama's say
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:33 am to dcbl
quote:
I agree with you here
Jim Webb of Virginia could also do it
but a typical democrat won;t be able to
because Trump owns that union / white working class vote
I don't think it's so much any candidate, but the platform. What would the message be?
I am going to raise your taxes!!
I am going to strap the economy with overburdened regulation!!
If I don't like the business you are in, I will bankrupt it.
Everybody will pay a carbon footprint tax cause muh climate change.
I will draw red line upon red line as countries walk all over us!!
I will take unlimited amounts of immigrants and let the middle class pay for them!!
What is the message a Dem can run on? Abortion on demand and welfare for errybody?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:57 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Jamie Dimon.
Disgusted with the Democratic Party at this point
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:08 am to Bison
I'm not picking on you Bison. I'm really not. But I just noticed your signature quote:
My oh my, that is remarkably similar to
attributable to the late, disillusioned Karl Marx. It's only similar because in Marx's iteration of this idea, there's less virtue signalling. In other words, when Marx said it, even he refrained from attributing to those who disagree with him personal judgment of his detractor's evil "greed," like the references in your signature block. All in all congratulations on outing yourself as a Marxist.
I'm assuming your response to me may be that Marxism contains some "good ideas" please know (as I think I've posted before) being a little bit Marxist is like being a little bit pregnant. And there are no "good ideas" that are Marxist, especially when applied to government. Marxism, contains NO LIMITING PRINCIPLES on the powers of government even in the "some good ideas" that it's applied to. Example - if you let government just a little bit into health care, it takes over the whole thing. That's why it scares the shite out of me. Marxism is a the horror movie - The Blob.
I say all this wondering with relevance to this discussion, and I'm hoping maybe you can enlighten the rest of us Neanderthal greedy capitalists about whether the Democrats would be able to locate, much less nominate somebody that wasn't even a little bit Marxist.
quote:
Here is your country. It provides enough to satisfy every man's needs, but not every man's greed. Do not let selfish men or greedy interests skin your country of its riches, resources or majesty.
My oh my, that is remarkably similar to
quote:
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
attributable to the late, disillusioned Karl Marx. It's only similar because in Marx's iteration of this idea, there's less virtue signalling. In other words, when Marx said it, even he refrained from attributing to those who disagree with him personal judgment of his detractor's evil "greed," like the references in your signature block. All in all congratulations on outing yourself as a Marxist.
I'm assuming your response to me may be that Marxism contains some "good ideas" please know (as I think I've posted before) being a little bit Marxist is like being a little bit pregnant. And there are no "good ideas" that are Marxist, especially when applied to government. Marxism, contains NO LIMITING PRINCIPLES on the powers of government even in the "some good ideas" that it's applied to. Example - if you let government just a little bit into health care, it takes over the whole thing. That's why it scares the shite out of me. Marxism is a the horror movie - The Blob.
I say all this wondering with relevance to this discussion, and I'm hoping maybe you can enlighten the rest of us Neanderthal greedy capitalists about whether the Democrats would be able to locate, much less nominate somebody that wasn't even a little bit Marxist.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:34 am to gthog61
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Anyone who believes trump’s background is only “entertainer” is either ignorant or dishonest
Youre right. bullshite artist. Only he views himself as an Entertainer
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:38 am to Jeb Busch Lite
Hillary Clinton was an awful candidate and still got 3 million votes more than Trump.
democrats will be fine.
democrats will be fine.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:43 am to redneck hippie
There's a LOT of circle jerkin going on in here. All dems have to do is actually get people out to vote.
And you're beyond stupid if you don't think Dems will vote for literally anyone that opposes Trump. Sexual assault? No care. Just don't be Trump. It'll happen.
Kamala Harris is going to identity politics all over this country. It's a proven winning strategy. She will get out blacks and women.
I think a lot of you underestimate how stupid the average voter is.
And you're beyond stupid if you don't think Dems will vote for literally anyone that opposes Trump. Sexual assault? No care. Just don't be Trump. It'll happen.
Kamala Harris is going to identity politics all over this country. It's a proven winning strategy. She will get out blacks and women.
I think a lot of you underestimate how stupid the average voter is.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:44 am to Jeb Busch Lite
Tulsi Gabbard is the most capable D
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:59 am to joshnorris14
There is a blue wave coming. Just roll out anyone.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:00 am to Jim Rockford
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doesn't exercise,
But muh golf outings!
quote:
doesn't eat right
You only see what the MSM shows of his on-the-road snippets. How many scoops for breakfast? How about the vast majority of his meals? State dinners are so bad nutritionally what the meats, veggies, grains.
quote:
history of dementia
That's why he switched from the Dem party support. All those Dem ideas drive people nuts.
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I think the odds of you being in fit condition to run 10 yards are less than 50-50.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:01 am to ocelot4ark
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Kamala Harris is going to identity politics all over this country. It's a proven winning strategy. She will get out blacks and women.
I think a lot of you underestimate how stupid the average voter is.
While I agree with you here, it'll all depend on where Dems get the vote out. Right now, Trump has the union workers in his back pocket in states including Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. That gives him a huge advantage in the EC. If he continues to create jobs in those areas and the market continues to perform, identity politics won't be enough to carry the Dems.
I will go as far to say that this Tax Bill that was just passed will keep the Republican majority in both the house and senate in 2018. When people see their tax cuts, what are the Democrats going to say? "This tax cut is bad?"
With where the economy is going and as long as jobs are created, the Dems better use a better strategy than identity politics in 2020 if they want to have a chance.
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