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re: Is there any liberal/conservative acceptance?

Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:12 pm to
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You seem like a reasonable person. do you believe it has created a chasm in IQ? And do you think that needs to be addressed?


Ooooooh. Shinnnnnny
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42147 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:12 pm to
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Defund the Police was one of the most ridiculous slogans to come out of woke-ism.


Agreed.

The issue is that it wasn’t just a slogan. If was the call to act, and leftist politicians did.

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Defund the Police was one of the most ridiculous slogans to come out of woke-ism.


True, but division is a means of control.
You’re the victim (CRT), and Dems have your back...or so they say.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 11:32 am
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:13 pm to
"Liberals" today accept these (Neo)conservative tenants:

- Corporations can and should punish employees for bad political beliefs

- Their appointed authorities should be trusted.

- War is okay

- Free speech does not mean freedom from consequences *wink*

- Virtue signaling is important.

- Offensive content must be censored.

- No more net neutrality. Let ISPs block untoward content.

- Domestic spying is fine

- Patriot Act ok

- Snowden and Assange should be in prison

- All media that doesn't report how they want is the enemy.

The main two differences between Democrats and NeoCons is Democrats believe abortion and institutional racism should be legal.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42147 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:16 pm to
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Some of the most prosperous times in our nations history have been marked by well regulated capitalism, and properly administered marginal tax rates.


These have been times when China was in check (prior to Clinton and the WTO most favored nation bullshite), and Trump’s term.

Outside of that, “regulated” capitalism has been the harbinger of decline.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:35 pm to
Also: both NeoCons and Democrats want cheap labor so they're willing to look the other way at the border and in dealings with China.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32585 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:36 pm to
welcome back
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:40 pm to
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welcome back


THX

I wasn't THAT "gone"
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:36 am to
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Do conservatives accept any aspect of liberalism?


So what is liberalism?
Corporatocracy?
Population control?
Centralized authority behind an army of government officials?
Conflicts for money?

They literally rob the word "liberal" and do evil shite with it.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:38 am to
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"Liberals" today accept these (Neo)conservative tenants


You forgot not giving a shite about Chinese genocide...

They cool with that now.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:40 am to
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liberals


Ohhh I get it now...getting your kids hired by foreign countries for millions of dollars a year. Just cause they're so experienced at whatever.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:45 am to
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But I also believe that income inequality needs to be addressed. I believe that since we didn't give freed slaves their '40 acres and a mule' and instead inacted horrible Jim Crow policies for decades, that systematic racism has created the huge chasm between white and black wealth and that we owe it to them to address.



Systemic racism is a myth.

The problem in the black neighborhoods is absentee fathers.

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I believe that it's insane that we spend so much on health care but have shitty results that bankrupt too many and that our society would be much better if we adopted/copied the successes of Norway, Sweden, Denmark - the countries that always show up at the top of the happiest countries in the world.



Move

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In short, there's a lot to learn and respect about each other-- and a lot that drives each side crazy. that's why a third party is necessary.



I don't respect a thing about Democrats.

[quotethat's why a third party is necessary.
[/quote]

Why?
You are definitely a Democrat.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28297 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:53 am to
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But I also believe that income inequality needs to be addressed. I believe that since we didn't give freed slaves their '40 acres and a mule' and instead inacted horrible Jim Crow policies for decades, that systematic racism has created the huge chasm between white and black wealth and that we owe it to them to address.


Put your money where your mouth is, give all your shite away to a poor, helpless black person of your choosing.
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1744 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:40 am to
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Who says conservatives are worried about who ducks whom?

That’s what I hate. The definition of conservative is so bastardized.



Both the term liberal and conservative are completely misused in the media and this board. They don’t mean what they use to mean 150 years ago. First off no conservative is ok with gay marriage. If they are, then are not conservative. They are a classical liberal. One of the pillars of conservatism is adherence to traditional values. Gay marriage is NOT a traditional value. Conservatives lean toward authoritarianism with laws enforcing those traditional values. Classical liberalism is pro free markets, property rights, limited government, and increased freedoms. More of you all are classical liberals than conservative.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:41 am to
Meh. My progressive friends and family support some dumb arse shiat, which makes it hard to support their other positions.

Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23055 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:49 am to
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I’m conservative and could give two shits who someone bangs behind close doors… outside of that, nothing I can think of.


Consenting Adults
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9952 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 6:16 am to
Can you give me some examples of who you define as liberal?

Ex. James Lindsay, Dave Rubin, Bill Maher, maybe Jimmy Dore.

Any politicians you consider liberal?


Now, are you equating liberals to Progressives? Because there are a lot of progressive media and politicians. In my perception, progressives are more authoritarian in nature, many just lack the ability of self reflection to see it.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12595 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 6:24 am to
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that we owe it to them

I don't owe anyone a thing for what happened in the past. 400 years ago or 40 years ago...doesn't matter.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12595 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 6:31 am to
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The Hispanic/Black work multiple jobs and struggle just to get by so they can't provide the same supports as the white families.

Probably could if both parents were in the household...or is that not the case where you are from?
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:11 pm to
Liberals and progressives today aren't really very progressive. Self-described liberal progressive Democrats today are basically NeoCons. They're puritanical authoritarians that behave like McCarthyists.
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