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re: Is there any hope for the right to build a coalition?

Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:52 pm to
What coalition did Trump build? Trump goes from "The best there ever was." to "Worthless! Who hired this guy anyway!" in about a week. I won't pretend like the GOP didn't strike first, but Trump is insulting and abusive to anyone standing in his way.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 2:10 pm
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5426 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:53 pm to
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Exactly, it’s a total lie.


Hell the guy who posted below you is one I believe.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
87075 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:56 pm to
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I don’t feel like MAGA gives two shits about being Republican. I feel it’s a third party that is quite effectively eating the Republican Party from the inside


Good. I'll say that's progress. GOP has needed to be retooled for decades.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25429 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Trump built a coalition.


What coalition is that?


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It’s rejected bc Muh True Conservative


Heaven forbid people have political principles that they don't shitcan the second some candidate they have an odd, misplaced loyalty to "pivots". Trump is a populist. Sometimes that Venn diagram has an intersection with conservative/limited government ideals, sometimes it doesn't. And it'll shift with time so who the hell knows how much intersection there will be tomorrow?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68466 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:11 pm to
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The right will have to replace them by poaching a significant piece of the left’s coalition. The obvious choice is private sector labor unions.


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so you think accommodating the demands of public sector labor unions in exchange for neocons is a good swap?


Read that again.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
5303 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:43 pm to
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3) Libertarian wing...Vivek

4) Neo-con, interventionalist wing... Haley

5) Liberal/moderate, Neo-liberal, corporatist wing... Christie


Above is not part of the right. These have always been false plants in the party
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:21 pm to
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3) Libertarian wing...Vivek


Don't see Vivek as a libertarian, not according to the few public statements have heard.

He just seems too smart to align himself with that. Has he ever claimed to be one?

Have listened to the foremost libertarian talk show for years - Free Talk Live - just out of curiosity.

There's nothing one hears on that show that can't be helped with a good swig of Maalox.

Just about everything we've heard from Vivek would be antithetical to the unbelievable assertions one hears on that program which consist of a constant stream of unbridled license for just about everything but the worst anti-personnel offenses.

All the deviancies and other self-destructive behaviors that if everyone did them they would undermine and eventually destroy a viable Republic - even would be a threat to the continuation of the species.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 8:37 pm to
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I don’t feel like MAGA gives two shits about being Republican. I feel it’s a third party that is quite effectively eating the Republican Party from the inside. Libertarian/Vivek would, imo, fit firmly in the MAGA.

This is true. The republican party has done an incredibly poor job(intentionally?)representing the views of conservatives. It must be reformed, or destroyed.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 8:38 pm to
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Trump is insulting and abusive to anyone standing in his way.


Then stay out of his way.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
33672 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 9:27 pm to
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The problem is 1 wants nothing to do with anyone in 2-5, and the people in 2-5 are tied of the people in 1 causing the lsoses to pile up.


This is retarded.
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