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re: Is there a secular argument against abortions?

Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:52 pm to
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Yes, this is a choice.

99% of your posting is word games.

It really shouldn't take 6 pages to get you to utter an opinion.

Followed by 6 more pages of you giving 1 word answers to responses to your opinion.

Especially when there are at least some people in the thread directly addressing you in an non-insulting and conversational mannner.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:53 pm to
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My point is that viability is the argument.


No, that should be the argument, but it isn't. The argument always becomes absolute.

If we're talking about a viable fetus, I'm 100% against abortion. Hell, I'm against it before that.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:53 pm to
To maintain the viability and survival of one's race or culture is one possibility.

See Japan.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:54 pm to
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No, that should be the argument, but it isn't. The argument always becomes absolute.

Wrong
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:55 pm to
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If we're talking about a viable fetus, I'm 100% against abortion. Hell, I'm against it before that.

In other words, you hold my opinion on the subject.

Only, if someone wants my opinion on it, they'll get it inside of 200 posts.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:55 pm to
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99% of your posting is word games.



Words matter. I only ask that people use the right words.

quote:

Especially when there are at least some people in the thread directly addressing you in an non-insulting and conversational mannner.


Everyone has received an appropriate response to their replies.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:56 pm to
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Wrong


Link to one that hasn't.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:57 pm to
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Everyone has received an appropriate response to their replies.

False.

You made an assertion.

Non-Moral arguments can be made in favor of making certain behaviors illegal.

Such an assertion clearly indicates you have non-moral arguments in mind.

So, let's discuss them.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:57 pm to
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Only, if someone wants my opinion on it, they'll get it inside of 200 posts.


I've given my opinion on it dozens of times, maybe more. Your assumptions are your problem, not mine.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:58 pm to
I'm not religious and I'm anti-abortion. I came to that conclusion after viewing 4d images of my 1st child. I find it funny when the so called "party of science" disputes visual evidence of a baby within the womb. I also find it interesting that the law treats an unborn child as a person when a crime is committed against the mother.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:59 pm to
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Link to one that hasn't.


That's easy.

I've appeared in a great many abortion threads on this board.

My opinion has NEVER progressed to "absolute".

I'm not the only one.

So, the assertion that it ALWAYS goes there is false.

If an individual within the thread goes there, he doesn't count for EVERYONE.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:00 pm to
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I've given my opinion on it dozens of times, maybe more. Your assumptions are your problem, not mine.

In this thread?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:00 pm to
OK, link me to one, and I'll admit that I was wrong.

Just one.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:01 pm to
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In this thread?


No, I've only done it once in this thread.
Posted by westerntigerfan
Member since Oct 2012
887 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:01 pm to
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If we're talking about a viable fetus, I'm 100% against abortion. Hell, I'm against it before that

Why are you arguing with someone with whom you agree? Viability is an secular argument against abortion. I'm sure there are many more, I provided one.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:02 pm to
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OK, link me to one, and I'll admit that I was wrong.

Just one
Have you EVER seen me argue absolutes in terms of abortion all the way back to conception?

If you're going to pretend that you don't see people on this board who are not "all the way to conception" people.......then, you're just lying.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:03 pm to
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No, I've only done it once in this thread.

You gave an example of how something can be justified as illegal sans a moral component?

OK. Perhaps I missed it.

Link?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:04 pm to
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Why are you arguing with someone with whom you agree? Viability is an secular argument against abortion. I'm sure there are many more, I provided one.

I actually don't find it to be a secular argument.

But yeah, viability is absolutely a common argument.

Pretending it isn't is silly.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:06 pm to
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secular argument against abortions
having an ounce of human decency. Anybody pro abortion is pure evil. There is nothing more inhumane or disgusting than slaughtering the most helpless lives on this planet. Woman's selfishness is not in the same galaxy of importance as fetus life.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29791 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:09 pm to
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That is why most clinics are in african american neighborhoods.



That may have originally true but I'm pretty sure that upscale retail areas have codes which pretty much relegate PPs to the hood now




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