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Is the Decline of Newspapers Bad for the Country?

Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:40 am
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:40 am
Major newspapers are dying. Many daily newspapers are going to 3x a week publication. In 2000, the Cleveland Plain Dealer had a staff of nearly 400. Now it's 33. Newspapers in mid-sized cities like Charlotte, Memphis, Denver and San Jose have seen a 90 percent reduction in staff. 1800 newspapers have closed since 2004.

Interestingly, nearly 75% of Americans have lost trust in the media but nearly the same number believe that their local media is financially healthy.

I'm not worried about the journalists themselves. Many of them have found work elsewhere and continue to spew their garbage. However, I have noticed a disturbing trend since the decline of newspapers.

Without a watchdog reporting, local municipalities have gone off the deep end with debt. My local government has been making some really bad moves that will cripple us, and nothing but a handful of citizens that the government has successfully branded as kooky on social media seem to care. Statewide, its just as bad. Only a couple of newspapers in Mississippi have a full time reporter covering what is going on in Jackson - and it's bad.

With the decline of local newspapers, voters turn to national media, and we know what is wrong there. In 1972, over half of voters voted a split ticket (that is, voted one party for Congress and another for President) In 2016, that number was less than 5 percent.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260825 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:42 am to
I certainly think the click based t style of journalism that's dominating is bad for the country
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112499 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:42 am to
It's certainly bad for any fool who goes to college majoring in journalism.

The Daily Iberian in 1960 was was much larger than the Shreveport Times is today.
Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
4689 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:44 am to
When the car was invented and refined; wagons makers, buggy makers and saddle makers saw a decline of sales.

A better mousetrap was built....
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54212 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:45 am to
Depends on how many people have bird cages.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:45 am to
quote:

I certainly think the click based t style of journalism that's dominating is bad for the country



It's actually more democratic, but yeah, clickbait news is now dominating more in-depth reporting. Formerly, for better or worse, journalists chose which stories were front page news. Now, we do.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57248 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:47 am to
Yes, because idiots can't post comments to actual newspaper articles like they can on the internet.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:47 am to
No, it's the decline of honest journalism that is bad for the country.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112499 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Yes, because idiots can't post comments to actual newspaper articles like they can on the internet.


The Shreveport Times printed call-in comments 'Tell the Times' for a little while in the 80s. It was great. My favorite:

'I don't want to alarm the people of Shreveport but I was crossing the Red River Bridge near Barksdale AFB and I saw a periscope sticking out of the water.
And I heard German voices.'
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18646 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:51 am to
quote:

No, it's the decline of honest journalism that is bad for the country.


On the national level that's absolutely true. But that's a slightly different topic.

On the local level the newspapers didn't get destroyed because of a lack of credibility, they are getting destroyed because of a lack of money as the press changes and becomes more nationalized. There is no money in local journalism and it's allowing local governments to go completely unaccountable as no one is paying attention.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57248 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:52 am to
quote:

'I don't want to alarm the people of Shreveport but I was crossing the Red River Bridge near Barksdale AFB and I saw a periscope sticking out of the water.
And I heard German voices.'


Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64379 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:55 am to
I hope good investigative newspapers come back strong one day. So yes.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61283 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:55 am to
The crazy ways the news is reported is what's killing it off. I think people are tired of agendas being injected into literally every news story.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54212 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:57 am to
quote:

The Daily Iberian in 1960 was was much larger than the Shreveport Times is today.



Our local newspaper has not only decreased the amount of ink it spends on actual news items, it's about half advertising now, the size of the paper used has shrunk considerably.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
25472 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:57 am to
Why stop at newspapers? Print media is a niche, not an industry.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4934 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:57 am to
Yes, it is bad, locally at least. We need the newspapers for the crawfish boils.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:03 am to
No, we actually need to hasten the decline of newspapers, circulars, magazines, and broadcast news outlets. Their "credibility" was purely a facade. So long as we work hard to protect the First Amendment online (regulations with teeth and a pro-First Amendment USSC), the truth will out.

We are on the cusp of talking about ideas again, instead of policy or gossip - the go-to bread and circuses of the establishment. Do you think it's mere coincidence that civil libertarianism and progressive socialism have exploded in popularity online?

Social media will be the instrument that fractures traditional voting blocks and upturn the political hierarchy. People are finding words to describe their desires for a new world, words that had previously been verboten - locked away by the media, by academia, by corporations. People fear this change because extremists on both sides are the first and loudest voices, but good ideas will defeat bad ideas as long as capable men and women have the courage to see them through.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79205 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:03 am to
It's all about coding now

And with the fast pace of news changing day to day and hour to hour in some cases, 3x a week won't cut it. You'll be getting 2 day old news
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14499 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:05 am to
quote:

When the car was invented and refined; wagons makers, buggy makers and saddle makers saw a decline of sales.

A better mousetrap was built....


But better for what? Modern media is certainly more efficient. The volume of information has increased with a lower cost.

But that does not mean better quality reporting. This is especially true at the local level as the OP notes. Some of this is made up by the internet. There is just so much more government information available online now. But really isn't enough by itself to tell you what is going on.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Depends on how many people have bird cages.

Or housebreaking a puppy
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