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Is McCabe a regular federal employee or an SES?

Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:38 pm
just curious...because if he was a regular employee he could just apply for a GS-3 with no clearance requirements and finish his career and pension?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18500 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:39 pm to
Regular civilian.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:47 pm to
Interesting. So what's stopping him from grabbing a low level position and getting his pension set at high 3?
Posted by LSUZouave
Gulf Coast
Member since Nov 2007
410 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:48 pm to
SES
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:48 pm to
Trick question

Neither!
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:50 pm to
hes not just a political appointee SES level 3?
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39357 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:51 pm to
this is all appealable, unfortunately
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 9:53 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:51 pm to
I was going for the he is unemployed angle
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:52 pm to
FBI Director is appointed.

Deputy director is just a top level SES, I think. Could be wrong.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

this is all appealable, unfortunately


If OPR recommended firing, his in-service appeal just took place and Sessions rejected it. If he wants to file for an injunction or something similar, he opens himself up to even more scrutiny and invasiveness.

My guess is that if he had time to draft that lengthy statement, he had time to file for an injunction and try to block the firing. He didn't.

Either way - they got him by the short and curlies.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 12:46 am to

Ahh True.
Posted by GIbson05
Member since Feb 2009
4320 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:16 am to
Deputy Director isn't appointed by the President so he would be an SES.

Appointed positions fall under the Executive Schedule (ES) pay scale.

Non appointed positions fall under the Senior Executive Schedule (SES) pay scale.

I know. Confusing.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
100979 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:25 am to
I heard hell still get his pension it will just be two years later and yah he could probably do something to expedite that even.

It’s still the point that GEOTUS planted his cock and balls over McCabes face that is amazing
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14500 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 4:00 am to
quote:

just curious...because if he was a regular employee he could just apply for a GS-3 with no clearance requirements and finish his career and pension?
I believe he had to wait until he is 57 and will retire with GS-3 pension.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135588 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 4:50 am to
quote:

If he were to be fired before Sunday, it appears likely McCabe could be docked his pension until he hits another, later age milestone.

Experts disagree -- and caution that predicting payouts is complicated given the complex federal system and each individual's personal career particularities -- but, per federal rules, McCabe may not be able to draw an annuity until a date ranging just shy of his 57th birthday, and as late as his 62nd. That could put the value of his uncollected pension in the realm of a half-million dollars.

On top of that, McCabe could also lose his law enforcement boost.

"What he would lose -- and this is a lot of money -- he would lose the enhanced benefits that law enforcement officers get," said George Chuzi, an attorney who represents federal employees.

Under the rules of FERS, that means he could be left with the standard multiplier of 1% on top of his years of service, down from the 1.7% enhanced rate for law enforcement.

Former FBI officials tell CNN that McCabe could also lose out on future health care coverage in his retirement if he were to be fired before he turned 50, and the firing could be subject to litigation.

LINK
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 6:42 am to
I doubt he has the money to litigate his firing and the criminal charges he could be facing.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18371 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 8:03 am to
He’ll get his pension on time. Anyone who has spent more than a day working with the government knows that. Cool to fantasize though
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52354 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 8:38 am to
quote:

 doubt he has the money to litigate his firing and the criminal charges he could be facing



Dude has been swampy for a long long time. There's no telling how much juice he's got put away.
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