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is ken starr DS?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:25 am
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:25 am
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I ask because, although this sounds good ...
"Ken Starr says Pelosi engaging in 'abuse of power' and Senate may have to dismiss impeachment case"
I also have to wonder, is that his way of avoiding a trial that would publicly uncover countless crimes?
I ask because, although this sounds good ...
"Ken Starr says Pelosi engaging in 'abuse of power' and Senate may have to dismiss impeachment case"
I also have to wonder, is that his way of avoiding a trial that would publicly uncover countless crimes?
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:26 am to mrsray
I don’t trust Ken Star.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:28 am to Oddibe
Me either, even if he lead the investigation against WJC
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:28 am to mrsray
Yes
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:28 am to mrsray
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Ken Starr
He's part of the Bush wing of the Deep State.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:30 am to KCT
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He's part of the Bush wing of the Deep State.
thank you, had a feeling that was the case
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:31 am to biggsc
Just look at what happened at Baylor under his control.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:34 am to mrsray
I have learned to not place everlasting trust in any human being.
I just pick and choose whose opinions I rely on most based on their history as known by me.
I think Ken Starr is one of those who will adhere to the letter of the law, regardless of the circumstances that led up to whatever allegation he is asked to opine on.
I do not think he will try to 'mold' his opinion based on what he 'wishes' were the case, or who it may benefit/disadvantage.
That is about as high praise as I can confer - and I could be wrong.
I just pick and choose whose opinions I rely on most based on their history as known by me.
I think Ken Starr is one of those who will adhere to the letter of the law, regardless of the circumstances that led up to whatever allegation he is asked to opine on.
I do not think he will try to 'mold' his opinion based on what he 'wishes' were the case, or who it may benefit/disadvantage.
That is about as high praise as I can confer - and I could be wrong.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:43 am to mrsray
I think Ken Starr let Clinton skate. Once the Monica Lewinski case came to light (not discovered by Starr's investigation), Clinton should have been removed from office.
My theory has always been that Lewinski was a Godsend for Clinton, because it allowed them to sweep Whitewater under the rug. In addition, the Republicans decided to convict Clinton of perjury. On the one hand, that is the crime he committed - yes, he lied under oath, but every one of us would probably have done the same.
The real high crime and misdemeanor was that he was boinking a 20 year-old intern in the oval office. Behavior befitting a sitting US President? Hardly. Was it sexual harassment? By the definitions set by the women's rights movements at that time, it was.
Yet, the Republicans focused on perjury, and made Clinton a sympathetic figure. They did not portray him as a sexual predator who was abusing his power by seducing young ladies who were less than half his age. If they had done that, they could have caused an uproar that would have forced him out. But they didn't. They focused on lying and we could all sympathize with that because we would all would have denied an affair, too.
Yes. I think Ken Starr knew what he was doing and he let Clinton stay in office and the Democrats were just tainted enough that George W Bush would get elected in 2000.
My theory has always been that Lewinski was a Godsend for Clinton, because it allowed them to sweep Whitewater under the rug. In addition, the Republicans decided to convict Clinton of perjury. On the one hand, that is the crime he committed - yes, he lied under oath, but every one of us would probably have done the same.
The real high crime and misdemeanor was that he was boinking a 20 year-old intern in the oval office. Behavior befitting a sitting US President? Hardly. Was it sexual harassment? By the definitions set by the women's rights movements at that time, it was.
Yet, the Republicans focused on perjury, and made Clinton a sympathetic figure. They did not portray him as a sexual predator who was abusing his power by seducing young ladies who were less than half his age. If they had done that, they could have caused an uproar that would have forced him out. But they didn't. They focused on lying and we could all sympathize with that because we would all would have denied an affair, too.
Yes. I think Ken Starr knew what he was doing and he let Clinton stay in office and the Democrats were just tainted enough that George W Bush would get elected in 2000.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:49 am to mrsray
Ken Starr is a deal state POS.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:56 am to Jax-Tiger
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yes, he lied under oath, but every one of us would probably have done the same.
NO - not 'every one of us" would lie under oath.
YES - I would make up a 'white lie' if I had done something that was out of character for me and would avoid 'admitting' to it in some social setting.
IF what I did was criminal (hard for me to imagine) but I am sure I would just "plead da fif" instead of committing perjury - well I guess if I had actually murdered someone, I would probably commit perjury = who knows???
BUT - one thing I am SURE of - I would NEVER have suborned perjury to get others to ALSO lie for my benefit.
I would NEVER have abused my power by siccing my 'enforcers' on those who were actually telling the truth about my past behavior.
I would NEVER have operated a merry-go-round of choice assignments for those who would suck my dick and excluding any who would not go to their knees anytime I wanted.
Bill Clinton was merely a sex addict with a glib tongue - I truly believe everything in his life was devoted to getting the next blowjob - I believe it was HILLARY who was motivated by the MONEY - together they made the most corrupt administration in history - until OBAMA came along and said = "hold my beer"
Of course Obama was/is a islamist/communist trying to take down the very structure of the USA. = the Manchurian Candidate in flesh and blood.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:00 am to KCT
Lord have mercy, you guys have created a
Fantasy more dense and complicated than Game of Thrones. You’d do better to find a good book series to read instead of fricking up American politics.
Fantasy more dense and complicated than Game of Thrones. You’d do better to find a good book series to read instead of fricking up American politics.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:00 am to mrsray
Despite all the Clinton/MSM Political Complex bullshite, Starr’s a RINO. I think he just strongly dislikes trump boardering on hate, but he doesn’t have TDS.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:05 am to ChineseBandit58
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NO - not 'every one of us" would lie under oath.
YES - I would make up a 'white lie' if I had done something that was out of character for me and would avoid 'admitting' to it in some social setting.
I think it was very much in character for Bill.
I also think that his "lie" was not his, and his alone. I think there was a lot of money, careers, and elections on the line. There was a lot of pressure on him to deny it and hope that it goes away.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:13 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:I keep repeating...
My theory has always been that Lewinski was a Godsend for Clinton, because it allowed them to sweep Whitewater under the rug.
I worked with one of the actual RTC Examiners who was physically on-site, inside the records, examining the Whitewater financials. He HATED the Clintons with a burning passion and if he had found literally anything he would have personally gone to media if the govt. didn't act. He found nothing. To this day he is saddened by the fact he could not be a party to sending either of the Clintons to jail or at the least run out of politics.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:34 am to VOR
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Lord have mercy, you guys have created a
Fantasy more dense and complicated than Game of Thrones. You’d do better to find a good book series to read instead of fricking up American politics.
Your blindness is not my problem.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:37 am to mrsray
I've met the guy, personally, and he seems nice enough.
But, there has never been a more glaring example of a milquetoast, tepid, Type B personality in the types of positions he has held.
He is brilliant, though. Mind is sharp as a tack.
But, there has never been a more glaring example of a milquetoast, tepid, Type B personality in the types of positions he has held.
He is brilliant, though. Mind is sharp as a tack.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:41 am to ChineseBandit58
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not 'every one of us" would lie under oath.
Certainly not. And not 'every one of us' would have suborned perjury by others, which Clinton certainly did in asking Lewinsky to issue a sworn statement he knew to be false.
And those were the crimes, not the sexual activity. The sexual activity was gross misconduct for which he should have been fired. The Republicans tried, but failed, to push this point as the complicit "media" advanced the Clinton narrative that the impeachment was "about sex." No. It was about removable misconduct. But, back then "High Crimes and misdemeanors" had to be more than "Orange Man Bad."
So, the perjury was the big crime there, from a pure black letter perspective.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:38 am to mrsray
why the down vote? ... for trying to get information?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:39 am to mrsray
Yes
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