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re: Is it “rape”?
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:49 am to Robin Masters
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:49 am to Robin Masters
Did you read the explanation below your link? Again,I can’t undersyanf the concept for you. A law states what it states. Explain to me how citing law meets any definition you can find of an appeal to authority. You still aren’t grasping the weak induction.
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:51 am to Robin Masters
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Not this shite again. Sorry, you aren’t worth the time. However It’s been explained in thread if you care to understand why you’re missing the point.
Literally everyone in this thread has pointed out the flaws in your “argument.” You aren’t exactly a tough match. For nearly every poster in this 10 page thread. 
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:53 am to SammyTiger
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So where do you draw the line on consenting? Apparently 13 year old boys can. 13 year old girls can’t. What about same sexy relationships? Same rules in your book?
I’m not debating this fact.
Although I must say, when I was arrested for underage drinking at 14, they Damn sure felt I consented to ingesting the booze. And if I give my kids friends a ride hone from soccer practice is it “kidnapping” since they cannot consent? And a 13 yo can willingly have sec with his 18 yo girlfriend, be a victim of rape, and then kill her and he can be tried as an adult for her murder?
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:54 am to Robin Masters
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allow/support victims of this type of behavior efforts to view themselves, in the same way as people who were violently raped.
Is that what this is about? Who are you to “allow” someone how to view themself? How does that matter at all? Good Lord. If this was the real point of the thread you should have communicated it more clearly. Then we could have just laughed at the hubris it must take to think you should have some say regarding someone else’s self-image.
What an abortion of a thread. Have a great day, Lenny.
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 10:55 am
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:56 am to CaTiger85
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that what this is about? Who are you to “allow” someone how to view themself? How does that matter at all? Good Lord. If this was the real point of the thread you should have communicated it more clearly. Then we could have just laughed at the hubris it must take to think you should have some say regarding someone else’s self-image.
Except that’s exactly what happened. People told him he was a victim and he eventually began to believe it.
Thanks for understanding my point.
Not sure why you’re getting so upset though. Simmer Donna.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:59 am to CaTiger85
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What an abortion of a thread. Have a great day, Le
And yet you couldn’t resist joining in.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:59 am to Robin Masters
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Not sure why you’re getting so upset though. Simmer Donna.
you started a thread because you are melting over how some minor who had sex views himself. Strange. Pretty damn creepy dude. I think I’ll bow out now that I know this is what has you worked up. Weirdo. Posted on 2/24/21 at 11:02 am to Robin Masters
If you have trouble figgerin out that boinkin' kids is wrong, you need help.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 11:03 am to CaTiger85
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you started a thread because you are melting over how some minor who had sex views himself. Strange. Pretty damn creepy dude. I think I’ll bow out now that I know this is what has you worked up. Weirdo.
Straw man
Posted on 2/24/21 at 11:18 am to Robin Masters
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I’m not debating this fact.
You have to.
The reason why we have statutory rape laws are because as a society we think kids are too young to consent to have sex. They don’t understand it enough to consent.
You’re whole argument is that 13 year old boys know what they’re doing. So when do they learn that?
Posted on 2/24/21 at 11:24 am to Robin Masters
Why did you identify as a him? Maybe a transitioning lesbian.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 11:28 am to Robin Masters
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Debate I got into on a different site
Congrats being flanked on both fronts, General Incompetence.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 11:35 am to SammyTiger
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You’re whole argument is that 13 year old boys know what they’re doing. So when do they learn that?
It was? I don’t recall even suggesting that legal consent laws should be changed and in fact I’ve repeatedly said that adults having sex with minors is wrong.
I’m not sure what else you want me to say.
It is odd however that we draw such a hard line on this but will try 13 yo as adults for murder.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:09 pm to Robin Masters
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It was?
Yes.
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I don’t recall even suggesting that legal consent laws should be changed and in fact I’ve repeatedly said that adults having sex with minors is wrong.
Really? You spend an entire threat arguing that they don’t feel that same as “violent rape victims.” You’ve said they were just claiming victim culture for profit. You are basically arguing the whole time it’s different and almost insulting to call them both rape.
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It is odd however that we draw such a hard line on this but will try 13 yo as adults for murder.
We generally don’t though. And murdering someone vs being raped are pretty different situations.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:17 pm to SammyTiger
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Really? You spend an entire threat arguing that they don’t feel that same as “violent rape victims.” You’ve said they were just claiming victim culture for profit. You are basically arguing the whole time it’s different and almost insulting to call them both rape.
And? You apparently feel a 13 yo boy who willingly bangs their 18 yo neighbor is the same as your wife/daughter getting violently and mercilessly penetrated against her will by an excon.
Agree to disagree then.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:20 pm to Robin Masters
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Debate I got into on a different site: 13 yo boy has consensual, very enjoyable sex with an older teacher and then later regrets it abs develops a victim complex and thinks he was “raped”.
Would it be “rape” if the sexes were reversed?
After all, a 13-year old girl would more than likely be both mentally and physically more mature than the boy.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:40 pm to Robin Masters
quote:Americans DO have a tendency to treat most "sexual assault" offenses as being equivalent, probably due to our Puritan roots.
Robin Masters
I don't see it as being inherently unreasonable to ask whether the same level of culpability is applicable when a 35yo has de facto consensual sex with a 13yo, versus a 21yo with a 17yo. OR to ask the same question about the violent sexual assault of an adult woman by an adult man, versus that de facto consensual relations between that 21yo and that 17yo.
Again, our Puritan background will likely mean that SOMEONE will accuse you of being a pervert for even conducting the analysis or will accuse you of being a pedophile for seeing the 21/17 offense as less serious than the 35/13 offense.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:42 pm to Robin Masters
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And?
Don’t turn around and pretend like you weren’t underplaying.
That’s the point.
You can come up with a million scenarios that are worse than the last but there is a line and once you’re on the other side of it, that’s rape.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 12:48 pm to Robin Masters
I slept with one of my HS girlfriend’s mom when I was 15/16. I didn’t see it as rape then but I would definitely not be happy if my sons were in that situation. Call me a hypocrite. 
Posted on 2/24/21 at 1:17 pm to Robin Masters
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You apparently feel a 13 yo boy who willingly bangs their 18 yo neighbor is the same as your wife/daughter getting violently and mercilessly penetrated against her will by an excon. Agree to disagree then.
now THIS is a logical fallacy. False dichotomy. I guess you hadn’t overheard someone else saying that so you didn’t know. Now you have and you can misapply them like the other two fallacies you mentioned in this thread. Weirdo. 
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