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re: Is it possible to crush Chinas economy?
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:29 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:29 pm to OMLandshark
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I’m sorry, even if you go out of your way to buy things from outside of China, you will not be fully successful.
Correct. But you can be mostly successful with some effort.
If been investing in starting up my own small business slowly for the past year or so. I've been deliberately going out of my way to purchase American (and Japanese when American just isn't available) made products for my business.
Thus far I'm about $15,500 into it and to my best estimation only about $775 of it was from products made in (or sourced through) China.
We can all do our part even a little. Every bit counts. I'm honestly surprised that with some bargaining shopping and a hell of a lot of reading and research, I haven't overpaid a bit compared to if I had bought Chini-made stuff.
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:29 pm to rb
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The worlds leverage over China is they can't feed their massive population without the U.S and Brazil. If you wanted to hurt the Chinese you do it though ag exports.
They’ve already solved that with buying Africa.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:29 pm to Cajun Tide
Stop buying their shite and exporting our labor and their economy would collapse in a matter of weeks.
Now of course we'd never do it, but the "how" is pretty simple
Now of course we'd never do it, but the "how" is pretty simple
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:29 pm to Nguyener
That's what's currently happening in India and Vietnam.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:30 pm to TigerAxeOK
I’m sorry, but if your kid is dying, you’ll accept Chinese pharmaceuticals and medical technology to save your kid. They’ve got you by the balls.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:31 pm to Cajun Tide
Find a blight that will affect rice.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:32 pm to Nguyener
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Colonize Mexico. Build factories everywhere and only buy things made in North America. China uses child labor and no wages. Mexico would too.
If we were able to get all of our shite out of China (which we should try), I’d say it’s still a really bad idea to give Mexico all our factories from China. Some of them yes, but I say would should simply go by the Monroe Doctrine and build them throughout Central and South America.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:33 pm to OMLandshark
They're borrowing that dirt in Zimbabwe and South Africa. They'll eventually be run off of those farms.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:36 pm to rb
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They're borrowing that dirt in Zimbabwe and South Africa. They'll eventually be run off of those farms.
Ummm no they won’t for two reasons:
1) 34 million more males than females in China to protect those assets.
2) Or far more simply just bribe off the local war lords to allow them and their men to eat their hearts contents and starve the rest of their country.
Sorry, that one doesn’t take a rocket scientist to solve that potential problem.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:38 pm to Cajun Tide
Another idea would be to absolutely crush US based companies who have a physical presence in China. Make it so financially brutal for someone like Nike or the NBA that they decide it isn't worth it to do business there.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:39 pm to Cajun Tide
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Is there a way you could tank Chinas economy without starting a war.
Can't do it without starting a war. Trump was taking a pretty good swing at it and they sent him covid.
I don't know if Trump's strategy was right or wrong but he knew who the enemy was. China seemed to not like him, so I lean towards he was right.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:41 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, and they’d respond to that with nuclear Holocaust. Yeah, it’d end them, but it’d end us too.
Not that I think we should get involved in such things, but this really isn’t true. China has between 250-300 nuclear warheads, only about 100-150 of which can be immediately deployed and of which only about half can be immediately launched at distances that can reach the continental US. We have nearly 6000 warheads, nearly all of which can reach China. Couple that with our far superior air and ICBM defense technology and China would be unable to overwhelm us and you’d end up with a vaporized China and a couple destroyed American cities.
MAD is largely a myth when discussing any two nations and one of them is the US.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:44 pm to TigerAxeOK
Force them to take month-long classes in intersectional feminism and critical gender theory. They will commit suicide in mass numbers.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:47 pm to OMLandshark
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They’ve become self sufficient at this point. W
They’re far from it. I’m fact they’ve lost billions on the Belt and Road initiative. Most of their projects either lack funding or have cost them being barred from the World Bank.
boon in the early days of the Belt and Road, the initiative has lost support amid the scandals, debt traps and failed projects that have emerged in recent years. Countries along the corridors are now operating with far more caution and scrutiny, pumping the breaks on many projects and potentially setting the BRI back for years to come.
In addition, Chinese tech giants Huawei and ZTE have been probed for wrongdoing in numerous BRI countries, and the U.S. arrested the emissary of China’s CEFC Energy Company for illicit payments to officials in Chad and Uganda. A 2017 McKinsey survey found that between 60% to 80% of Chinese companies in Africa admitted to paying bribes and, almost needless to say, in the latest Transparency International Bribe Payers Index, Chinese firms scored second to last.
In 2020 alone their national debt rose 318% and is rising through the roof every week. the long-term, China’s rising national debt levels will create serious problems and hazards. It could hamper economic growth while forcing Beijing to fight off long-term wage stagnation and moderate private consumption, creating a repeating process in which shoppers have less disposable income and consume less.
Self-sufficient my arse.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:55 pm to memphisplaya
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They’re far from it. I’m fact they’ve lost billions on the Belt and Road initiative. Most of their projects either lack funding or have cost them being barred from the World Bank.
boon in the early days of the Belt and Road, the initiative has lost support amid the scandals, debt traps and failed projects that have emerged in recent years. Countries along the corridors are now operating with far more caution and scrutiny, pumping the breaks on many projects and potentially setting the BRI back for years to come.
In addition, Chinese tech giants Huawei and ZTE have been probed for wrongdoing in numerous BRI countries, and the U.S. arrested the emissary of China’s CEFC Energy Company for illicit payments to officials in Chad and Uganda. A 2017 McKinsey survey found that between 60% to 80% of Chinese companies in Africa admitted to paying bribes and, almost needless to say, in the latest Transparency International Bribe Payers Index, Chinese firms scored second to last.
In 2020 alone their national debt rose 318% and is rising through the roof every week. the long-term, China’s rising national debt levels will create serious problems and hazards. It could hamper economic growth while forcing Beijing to fight off long-term wage stagnation and moderate private consumption, creating a repeating process in which shoppers have less disposable income and consume less.
Self-sufficient my arse.
But how does this compare to where the rest of the world is? That’s the big question. I think they’re very, very well situated for domination. They’ve got so many countries by the balls. I just think a lot of what you’re saying is largely irrelevant given how well they’ve covered their bases. This is the real life equivalent of Sauron forging the One Ring. They simultaneously strengthening and weakening themselves all at once.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:57 pm to Roger Klarvin
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China has between 250-300 nuclear warheads
Here’s my problem: why should we trust that the CCP is telling us the truth on that? Hell I think Taiwan has some nukes they haven’t told us about even if it’s solely because the Eisenhower administration secretly shipped them some.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:00 pm to OMLandshark
If by covering your bases you mean lying and forging numbers sure. The truth is easy to find however. It just takes longer because the government and Chinese media are dishonest about it all.much like our own
Remember China got caught coating iron and trading it as gold in 2019. No self sufficient country would stoop so low.
Remember China got caught coating iron and trading it as gold in 2019. No self sufficient country would stoop so low.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:01 pm to memphisplaya
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Remember China got caught coating iron and trading it as gold in 2019. No self sufficient country would stoop so low.
That is a valid point. China above all else never wants to show weakness, and having the balls to sink that low is showing a weakness. That’s a weakness that none of the other major powers have. I forgot about that. Upvote on that post.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:04 pm to Cajun Tide
China does not waste their money on wars and welfare. We have destroyed our economy by dumbing down our educational system and useless government regulations among other things.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:13 pm to Nguyener
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For example, We’d have to wait a couple years to get iphone plants up and running or maybe not have new phones every year. that’s too much sacrifice.
Next time you are out in public look at how pathetic people are.
They always have their nose buried in their cell phone.
Kids today are screwed, their parents pay more attention to the phone than their own children.'
Before covid, I would see it in restaurants.
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