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Is it illegal to replace/fire an Ambassador for the US?

Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted by danny d lsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
1574 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:02 pm
There seems to be such an uproar that this US Ambassador to Ukraine was let go. Wasn’t she appointed to the position by Obama in 2016? Do you just get to be ambassador forever? I’m just trying to understand.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115094 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:03 pm to
No.

They serve at the pleasure of the president. It is an appointed position.

Presidents can sack every ambassador the day they enter office if they wish (along with every US attorney)
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74091 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:04 pm to
No
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Wasn’t she appointed to the position by Obama in 2016?


Apparently, it's actually illegal for Trump to undo anything that Obama did. Period.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20996 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:05 pm to
Until Trump, the comings and goings of ambassadors was not newsworthy.

Hell, the murders of ambassadors wasn't newsworthy.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115094 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

Apparently, it's actually illegal for Trump to undo anything that Obama did. Period.


That's the argument they're making about DACA in front of the Supremes
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21729 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:06 pm to
There’s a lot of pearl clutching these days due to the president exercising various authorities well within his Constitutional purview. It is all hysterical bullshite.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5993 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:07 pm to
She is a RAT!
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39562 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:08 pm to
Of course not. If that Hire is not towing the line for their Boss...out they go. Obama fired Republicans left and right; it is ludicrous for Trump to retain any Obama people. The division and antipathy is to too stark

"Damn the torpedoes...full steam ahead".
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

That's the argument they're making about DACA in front of the Supremes




That's their argument for a few things.

"Well, Obama did it, and Trump didn't give a very good reason for wanting to undo it, so... he can't."
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

Obama fired Republicans left and right; it is ludicrous for Trump to retain any Obama people.


She has been a US ambassador since 2005 fyi. She just got moved around within the department. I would say it's fair to label her a GWB appointee, although she was a bureaucrat even before then, just not ambassador
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 3:22 pm
Posted by danny d lsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
1574 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:22 pm to
Thank you for the responses. I figured the President has the authority to hire/fire who he wants.
Posted by K2LAW
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jun 2007
1802 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

She has been a US ambassador since 2005 fyi. She just got moved around within the department. I would say it's fair to label her a GWB appointee, although she was a bureaucrat even before then, just not ambassador



And she wasn't fired from State either -- she just lost that position
Posted by danny d lsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
1574 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:24 pm to
So she was just moved around within the department, still works for the government, but it’s still Orange Man Bad?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

And she wasn't fired from State either -- she just lost that position



Yep. I just wouldn't label her as an Obama person/appointee when she's been doing this for so long and was already an ambassador before Obama
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77321 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

They serve at the pleasure of the president. It is an appointed position.


This.

Yovanovich should count herself lucky she didn't find herself underemployed on Jan 21, 2017.
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