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re: Is anyone using strategy of waiting on the REAL VACCINE?

Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:52 am to
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6079 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:52 am to
Ditto
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95699 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:54 am to
Yes the J&J is more traditional but I’ve seen firsthand the severe blood changes it caused in my ex’s period (4 to 5 times the normal amount of bleeding for the first month, double that for the second) and it seems to be the most risky for younger healthy people in regards to blood clots and heart related matters
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 10:55 am
Posted by Tider13
Member since Jun 2020
933 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:55 am to
No its not. Is it closer? No it's still gene therapy. It's not a fricking vaccine.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 10:56 am
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 11:58 am to
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Sorry I interrupted your weird little attachment to something blatantly false.

So a perfectly legit definition of the current choices NOT BEING VACCINES and your attempt at a slab from way below down there:
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It is NOT a vaccine in any way.


You're free to wait, but it absolutely is a vaccine and I really have no idea how this weird talking point started propagating.

A vaccine is a non-infectious agent that induces an immune response to a potential pathogen.
met with this indication of great misery and lack of intellect, ALSO INCORRECT.

Followed by this further CORRECT definition indicated all discussed previously:
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A vaccine is and always has been:

"A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins."

There is no dead virus or attenuated virus in this one.

The communist themselves said during ELECTION THEFT 2020 that no one should take a completely approved non-experimental product.

The "weird talking points" ARE ALL YOURS...
followed by the absurd and childish (and incorrect):
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You added a stipulation that is not part of the actual definition.
which does not make the first bit of sense and is perfectly described as "childish" and "petty" To which I directed
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This is the course of the stupid.. Avoid the original then declare some insignificant point as though it meant something.

Original description stands, clown. Your childish "nah nah nah na na" not so much.


Followed by MORE several meaningless slap attempts from you down there, WAY down there below.. as is obvious by now. Well, to thinking people, that is...

This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30186 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:06 pm to
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Is anyone using strategy of waiting

Yes. Waiting to see the longer term effects. If I was high-risk, I’d have gotten the shot by now.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46991 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:09 pm to
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This first wave of "VACCINES" (that are NOT VACCINES) is just more ELECTION THEFT Part 35, just another attempt to impeach Trump

Trump developed the vaccine to impeach himself?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:10 pm to
You guys are absolute morons.

J&J is an adenovirus vector to give your body DNA which is a step before mRNA in the body.

Your body will make mRNA from the DNA. It’s basically giving you mRNA.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38020 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:11 pm to
Yup, not anti-vaccine, just anti-being an experiment.

Happy to take a traditional, well-tested vaccine. I'm hesitant on jumping into any new technologies that impact health and biology directly unless the research is diverse, completely understood, non-politicized and extremely clear in intent and need addressed.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:16 pm to
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Trump developed the vaccine to impeach himself?

Their use has been co-opted requiring a 180 from their position prior to election theft 2020 that "only approved treatment YADA YADA YADA..."

referring to the arsenal of GET TRUMP tools they have used against our president.

The meaningless failed impeachments they attempted - one after he was out of office (?); the demonic displays of DemonPelosi in ripping the official state of the union transcript and fully demon inspired sideways clapping AT the president..

all of their lies directed at the president


to be followed by the biggest "impeachment"/demonic behavior of them all - ELECTION THEFT 2020

LOTS of them should be arrested



This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 1:11 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19263 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:26 pm to
Yes, it’s not perfect. Have any of you idiots screaming about taking a vaccine spent two seconds appreciating how difficult it was was President Trump to mobilize this kind of response.

It is inconceivable to produce a vaccine onto the market in the time frame it happened. Red tape, regulations, just general graft for Pete’s sake to get in the way.

We have vaccine now that is helping. I’ll take that while they work on improving it. We have diseases you very rarely see anymore and those were improved with time also.

So if you don’t want to take it, fisking don’t. I couldn’t care less if you don’t wear a mask that isn’t an N95 cause I doubt they help one bit.

Just quit acting like some virtuous social justice warrior who screaming look at me because they want someone to look at them rather than do the math and exercise some common sense.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5481 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:28 pm to
Novavax is already elsewhere
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:30 pm to
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Novavax is already elsewhere

meaning?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:35 pm to
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Yup, not anti-vaccine, just anti-being an experiment.

especially since this is apparently nothing but a tool of a Biden administration that has not administered the first thing beneficial to AMERICANS.

These blind authoritarians have proven they are not trustworthy.

IN ANY WAY
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6936 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:40 pm to
Downvotes must be from the suckers that took the experimental gene therapy shots.


I’m holding out for the real vaccine; possibly the Novavax. Will have to learn more about it, so I can make an informed decision unlike the sheeple that took the early jabs.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 1:49 pm
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