re: Ireland referendum could lift strict ban on abortion

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Your analogy is terrible is because the intent of sex is to procreate.

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And calorie consumption evolved as a subgoal of facilitating procreation, not to bring about obesity. You have to consider the actions / intentions of people beyond the strict biological functions we are designed for.

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Like abortion to remove blacks, gays, and the sickly from the population?

Glad you're in support of those intentions.

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Holy red herring shaped strawman, Batman

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Holy red herring shaped strawman, Batman

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Margaret Sangers own words...

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Margaret Sangers own words...

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Irrelevant. You took his words completely out of context (namely responding to a previous post conflating evolutionary purpose and individual intent) and then attributed beliefs to him that he's never indicated he had in order to distract from the discussion. Strawman. Red herring.

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CFBR has already pointed out, you're conflating intent. Neither sex nor my car have the intent to do anything. I have intentions when I have sex, and I have intentions when I park my car. The fact that having sex has a potential reproductive outcome might have nothing to do with someone's intentions when they engage in that behavior. Sorry, you don't get to just conflate the two.

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No you're intention doesn't matter when there is a reality to contend with. Reality doesn't care what you're feelings are, and you don't get to conflate the two.

However even if I accepted your premise, which I dont. Your intent was to trade pleasure and or intimacy for a certain likelihood (>0%) of getting pregnant. So if your intentional act results in pregnancy your intentions were met, not violated. Unless you're going to argue they thought the chance was 0 percent, in which I go back to reality not caring about your feelings.

Now back to this preposterous trespass theory. Here's an analogy for ya.

You invite someone in your home, bound them in a chair where they can't move, then shoot them in the head because they won't leave.

Sounds reasonable.

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Your analogy is terrible is because the intent of sex is to procreate.

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I would offer T&P for any females in your life, but this attitude makes it unlikely that this is a real concern.

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No you're intention doesn't matter when there is a reality to contend with. Reality doesn't care what you're feelings are, and you don't get to conflate the two.

However even if I accepted your premise, which I dont. Your intent was to trade pleasure and or intimacy for a certain likelihood (>0%) of getting pregnant. So if your intentional act results in pregnancy your intentions were met, not violated. Unless you're going to argue they thought the chance was 0 percent, in which I go back to reality not caring about your feelings.

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You're the only one blathering on about feelings. Which, ironically, your feelings are pretty much the only things you're actually discussing.

But to get to the one substantive part of your post:

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Now back to this preposterous trespass theory. Here's an analogy for ya. You invite someone in your home, bound them in a chair where they can't move, then shoot them in the head because they won't leave. Sounds reasonable.

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Your analogy misinterprets eviction theory. It also inappropriately assumes an active invitation.

I think a more appropriate analogy would be that I live in a cabin out in the middle of the woods, thousands of miles from civilization. One day I come home from fishing to find some random guy in my cabin. I level my rifle and ask who the frick he is, and why is he in my cabin. He tells me that he was in a helicopter crash in which he was the only survivor. He has been wandering for days and was on the brink of starvation before he saw smoke rising from my chimney and stumbled across my cabin. My cabin door was unlocked and slightly ajar, so he went inside and started eating my food because it's his only option for survival, as he has zero wilderness survival knowledge or training.

I tell him to get out, now. He begs me to let him stay, or he'll starve to death. I then forcefully evict him from my cabin. He stands in my front yard staring at me for days, looking forlorn, until he finally dies of dehydration.

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Nope.

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I'm already aware that you don't understand what "intent" means.

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'm already aware that you don't understand what "intent" means.

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Nope again.

The problem you are having is you've built what you believe is a grand argument on a ridiculous premise and I keep hammering that premise.

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I'm not aware of a single one who relies on the premise that anyone who has sex is actively inviting a zygote to implant itself.

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Weird. Big missed opportunity