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Iraq Closes Airspace to Coalition After Israeli Airstrike
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:16 pm
The Israelis blew up a depot in Baghdad last week that belonged to an Iranian backed militia.
These militias emerged during the fight against Isis and the were eventually recognized by the state.
Iraq has now responded to the strike, shutting down airspace for everyone.
This is a good example of short sighted Israeli thinking. They blew up (1) depot, but in turn, they lost access to Iraqi airspace. Iraq will likely invest in a serious air defense system, likely the S-300, and any future strikes will be much more difficult. This also pushes Baghdad and Tehran closer, and it jeopardizes our deployment in Iraq.
It’s a tactical victory, but a strategic loss.
This episode also reveals a lot about Israeli thinking. They conducted the raid, knowing that we would pay a price.
These militias emerged during the fight against Isis and the were eventually recognized by the state.
Iraq has now responded to the strike, shutting down airspace for everyone.
This is a good example of short sighted Israeli thinking. They blew up (1) depot, but in turn, they lost access to Iraqi airspace. Iraq will likely invest in a serious air defense system, likely the S-300, and any future strikes will be much more difficult. This also pushes Baghdad and Tehran closer, and it jeopardizes our deployment in Iraq.
It’s a tactical victory, but a strategic loss.
This episode also reveals a lot about Israeli thinking. They conducted the raid, knowing that we would pay a price.
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Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:21 pm to Lima Whiskey
What will the Iraqis do to keep Israel out of their airspace?
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:22 pm to Lima Whiskey
Do you honesty think you know better than one of the most dedicated, well-trained, knowledgeable, resourceful, and dangerous militaries on Earth?
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:28 pm to Shiftyplus1
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Do you honesty think you know better than one of the most dedicated, well-trained, knowledgeable, resourceful, and dangerous militaries on Earth?
This ^
People do this in politics too. Criticize one decision because they believe they know better than a person who has access to mindblowing amounts of intel
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:28 pm to 257WBY
They were using coalition aircraft as cover.
That will be much more difficult if not impossible to do now.
Iraq doesn’t have the hardware they need to defend their airspace. They purchased 48 Pantsirs, the last of which were delivered in 2018, but those are a short range point defense system.
That will be much more difficult if not impossible to do now.
Iraq doesn’t have the hardware they need to defend their airspace. They purchased 48 Pantsirs, the last of which were delivered in 2018, but those are a short range point defense system.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:28 pm to Lima Whiskey
The Iraqi threat of closing their airspace means nothing 
If Israel and the U.S. wanted to flyover Iraq, and conduct operations, Iraq is not stopping anyone.
If Israel and the U.S. wanted to flyover Iraq, and conduct operations, Iraq is not stopping anyone.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:29 pm to 257WBY
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What will the Iraqis do to keep Israel out of their airspace?
Get better SAM's, hopefully.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:30 pm to BurningHeart
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People do this in politics too. Criticize one decision because they believe they know better than a person who has access to mindblowing amounts of intel
The Israelis acted selfishly and stupidly.
It’s a meaningless tactical victory that will result in serious negative repercussions for them.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:31 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Iraq Closes Airspace to Coalition After Israeli Airstrike
Oh well, shortsightedness happens.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:33 pm to Breauxsif
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The Iraqi threat of closing their airspace means nothing
They will acquire the means to do it.
And there are plenty of people in Iraq who would be happy to shoot down an allied aircraft.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:37 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The Israelis blew up a depot in Baghdad last week that belonged to an Iranian backed militia.
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This also pushes Baghdad and Tehran closer,
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This is a good example of short sighted Israeli thinking.
It’s a good example of someone’s short sighted thinking, certainly. How much closer do you think Baghdad and Tehran can get, if they are sanctioning another country for blowing up a depot owned by an Iranian backed militia?
Israel hasn’t really lost access to anything, so really all that has happened is elements within the Iraqi government which supports Iranian influence in the country have been exposed.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:38 pm to Shiftyplus1
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Do you honesty think you know better than one of the most dedicated, well-trained, knowledgeable, resourceful, and dangerous militaries on Earth?
The IAF is professional, but the IDF is badly trained, not at all that well motivated, and fundamentally undisciplined.
The Israeli leadership is generally short sighted.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:42 pm to troyt37
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Israel hasn’t really lost access to anything, so really all that has happened is elements within the Iraqi government which supports Iranian influence in the country have been exposed.
Nothing was “exposed” these militia have been operating with Tehran’s open and visible support for years.
Iraqis foremost concern is that this makes Iraq look weak, because they could not detect or stop the attack.
What will likely happen, is Iraq will buy some flavor of the S-300, either from Iran or Russia. And if Israel is really unlucky, they’ll share their radar data with Iran.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:57 pm to Lima Whiskey
Iraq is going to do exactly WTF we tell them to do
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:57 pm to Lima Whiskey
We should get the hell out of the Middle East TODAY.
The MIC screams for more money all the time and Trump like his former nemesis McCain seems willing to throw at them by the ship load.
Get us out--bring home our boys and tell the MIC to make do with what they have now that they have less responsibility.
The MIC screams for more money all the time and Trump like his former nemesis McCain seems willing to throw at them by the ship load.
Get us out--bring home our boys and tell the MIC to make do with what they have now that they have less responsibility.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 8/18/19 at 3:00 pm to Lima Whiskey
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they lost access to Iraqi airspace
What’s the logic? It’s good to have access to the airspace, so long as you don’t use it?
Isn’t this the same way the cucks look at taking a stand, they don’t like to, because it might jeopardize a future election?
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 8/18/19 at 3:01 pm to Lima Whiskey
Sadam has lost control
Posted on 8/18/19 at 3:06 pm to bamarep
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Iraq is going to do exactly WTF we tell them to do
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As guests within Iraq’s sovereign borders, CJTF-OIR complies with all Iraqi laws and direction from the Government of Iraq. The U.S.-led coalition immediately complied with all directions received from our Iraqi partners as they implemented the Prime Minister’s order.
From the CENTCOM statement.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 8/18/19 at 3:07 pm to KeyserSoze999
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What’s the logic? It’s good to have acces to the airspace, so long as you don’t use it?
Future value.
What’s the future value vs a tactical victory.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 3:11 pm to Lima Whiskey
Meh.
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