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re: Iran will never surrender

Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:24 am to
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:24 am to
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You realize “Iran” wants to surrender, right? The people want the regime toppled. We aren’t fighting Iran, we are fighting the regime.


Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
67464 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:25 am to
How do you know what the people want? The problem with leveling the country now is that’s a good way to turn the people against us.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55383 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:27 am to
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How long was this war supposed to last? 4 weeks?
It looks like it’s just the beginning. I expect prices to go up and stay up for many things. Inflation 2.0.
In the end, the United States will walk away with their tail between their legs. Other nations will hate us more.There won’t be a regime change and Iran will think they won the war against the mighty united states

It’s time to bring our troops home. Trump is confident in the damage that he left. If Iranians don’t want to take over their government, we aren’t going to force them to make changes.

Thanks for your attention to this matter


I haven't spoke to one person since this military operation kicked off who believes Operation Epic Fury would last a few weeks. The consensus from the people I've spoken with is the US is in it and now there is no retreat, no turning back the clock, it's victory or defeat. The main disagreement we have tossed around is the timing of the operation, however, we all agree this confrontation with Islam and the West was unavoidable and inevitable.

One thing we generally agree on is the Democratic Socialists likely take control of Congress if the US doesn't wrap this operation up by early summer and with a resounding victory.

Pray for the POTUS, pray for our brave soldiers, pray for a swift victory and pray for peace in the ME/Iran.
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 9:29 am
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2618 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:28 am to
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This conflict will take years to resolve. Anyone thinking this will end in weeks or months is new to the game


yes! they're not a seasoned vet like you!

the level of self delusion on this board is truly astounding!

with that out of the way what kind of a deal can you make me on a set of
235/40 r19 radials is firestone still running that buy 3 tires get one free deal?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
67464 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:28 am to
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The consensus from the people I've spoken with is the US is in it and now there is no retreat, no turning back the clock, it's victory or defeat.

SFP has a GIF for this line of thinking.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
473127 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:29 am to
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That’s why you kill them


If only it were that simple

And if only that power vacuum wouldn't create mass conflict and sectarian violence with even worse groups vying to power

But I imagine you're the type to think this is a binary conflict
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
473127 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:29 am to
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SFP has a GIF for this line of thinking.


I have a few
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14971 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:31 am to
Something
Something
Rather rule over ashes than give up power
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
67464 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:32 am to
My man Bass Tiger.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47307 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:32 am to
Look. I’m not going to play some game where we all pretend Iran wasn’t in the brink of revolution and Iranians weren’t dancing in the streets when the Ayatollah was killed. I’m also not going to pretend that we are specifically NOT leveling the country, avoiding power plants and critical infrastructure, to preserve something for Iran post-caliphate.

You don’t have to like the war and that’s a fair criticism of Trump, but the gaslighting and wish casting imminent doom is getting a bit ridiculous.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12887 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:34 am to
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You realize “Iran” wants to surrender, right? The people want the regime toppled. We aren’t fighting Iran, we are fighting the regime.



The regime is a group of religious fanatics who have indoctrinated their rank and file in the armed forces into believing their fight with the US is an existential battle of good and evil (where the US is the devil in this scenario).

They're not going to be toppled easily because they've secured all the critical points of regime stability. When you have the cops and armed forces on your side, you're going to be hard to topple. Most successful revolutions involve the law enforcement and military either stepping out of the way or switching sides.

Until the cops, general army, and republican guard flip or stand aside, we're going to be fighting the regime.

I've said it before and said it again: there is one way for the US to win this war without boots on the ground and it would make MacArthur's recommendation during the Korean War look like child's play.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47307 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:34 am to
You can say that about removing any murderous regime. So the world must tolerate murderous regimes? That’s dumb logic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
473127 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:35 am to
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I’m not going to play some game where we all pretend Iran wasn’t in the brink of revolution


I'm over 40 now.

Iran has "been on the brink of revolution" basically my entire adult life. 20+ years.

When I was in undergrad (2001-2005) the liberal profs swore Iran was about to revolt. This is a hard-line DEM belief. I'm shocked so many professed conservatives are adopting their talking points.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55383 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:36 am to
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The consensus from the people I've spoken with is the US is in it and now there is no retreat, no turning back the clock, it's victory or defeat.

SFP has a GIF for this line of thinking.


SloMoFo......
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47307 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:36 am to
Cool story
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
103756 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:36 am to
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You can say that about removing any murderous regime. So the world must tolerate murderous regimes? That’s dumb logic.


We assassinated the head of a major world religion after we feigned peace talks.

WE are a murderous regime.
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 9:37 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
473127 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:37 am to
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You can say that about removing any murderous regime. So the world must tolerate murderous regimes? That’s dumb logic


Are you ignorant to the history of the Middle East and Central Asia? Specifically the Muslim countries? Have you not paid attention in the past 30 years?

You're literally recycling war on terror talking points and replacing Saddam with the Iranian regime. The literal exact arguments were made on here 20 years ago to justify invading, Iraq and Afghanistan. People like me told you it was a bad idea for the same reasons that I'm telling you. It's a bad idea today. I was right then.

You think this is just going to be some outlier in history? The situation sucks and that's why they call it a quagmire
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
89091 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:37 am to
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We assassinated the head of a major world religion after we feigned peace talks.

Which head?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
67464 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:38 am to
The funny thing to me is if you had the same kind of protests/uprising in Eastern Europe, 90% of this board would call it a NED/USAID/CIA engineered color revolution.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
473127 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:38 am to
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The funny thing to me is if you had the same kind of protests/uprising in Eastern Europe, 90% of this board would call it a NED/USAID/CIA engineered color revolution.

No shite.

Because that literally just happened

There are so many people with Ukraine receipts who are the highest form of hypocrites today with Iran
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