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re: Iran and the narrative
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:15 am to scottydoesntknow
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:15 am to scottydoesntknow
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That was also half a century ago.
You think things have changed? Bless your heart. Iran is no better now than it was then. Iran is a bitter enemy and that has not changed. Iran's first target for a nuclear strike would be Israel. Guess which nation is second?
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:16 am to scottydoesntknow
Obama and Bush funded AlQueda
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:16 am to scottydoesntknow
Go back to your handlers…
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:17 am to SallysHuman
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quote:When was the last time Iran sent missiles towards Israel...without Israel having struck them first? wiki saysquote:In September 2024, a major escalation took place in the Hezbollah–Israel conflict that started after the Iranian-backed group initiated attacks against Israel on 8 October 2023, a day after Hamas's 7 October attack on Israel.
Hezbollah has claimed that it no longer takes orders from Iran. Its a fair point to say Iran has supported Hezbollah as Iran created it to fight for Lebanon against Israel. No one is disputing that Iran and Israel hate each other. Israel can fight a war with Iran, I dont give a damn. I am just not gonna support either side or pretend one is completely good while the other completely evil
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:17 am to LRB1967
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Iran's first target for a nuclear strike would be Israel.
Israel can handle Iran without us.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:20 am to EphesianArmor
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The record: Israel is a proven disruptor, aggressor and facilitator of bloodshed and war. They never did desire peace.
Just… damn.Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:25 am to scottydoesntknow
What you want see is how they treat their people without seeing on a video. Their people have been under a maniacal leader who has oppressed his people. I guarantee that most citizens are glad to see what is happening. But nothing will change unless there is a regime change and get Iran back like it was in the 60's and 70's. Don't believe what you hear from the legacy media. If they were teaching Civics again in school people would have a different view of the Iran 50 years ago vs Now.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:27 am to EphesianArmor
As I keep repeating,, hate is such a huge waste of time & energy. The 100's of years' history of the Middle East is not a product of Israel's propaganda. "Israel is lying" as justification of your hate is so so ugly. Israel is surrounded by 6 Arab countries, all of whom have expressively proclaimed their desire for the destruction of Israel. ( Remember the 6 Day War by any chance?) They can't afford to fight back for their survival by being gentlemen. This is a fight for their country's life .Remember the U.S. Congressman who stated it was "not gentleman- like to open Nazis' mail?
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:30 am to Tiger on the Rag
quote:TIL I learned Paul Wolfowitz is an LSU fan.
What you want see is how they treat their people without seeing on a video. Their people have been under a maniacal leader who has oppressed his people. I guarantee that most citizens are glad to see what is happening. But nothing will change unless there is a regime change
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:32 am to Tiger on the Rag
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But nothing will change unless there is a regime change
Thats up to them...we shouldnt be involved
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
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And incompetent pilots.
Those aircraft are worthless in their hands.
Well they certainly are now,
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 9:39 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:49 am to Keltic Tiger
quote:Egypt and Israel have had a peace treaty since 1979. Egypt participates in the blockade on Gaza.
Israel is surrounded by 6 Arab countries, all of whom have expressively proclaimed their desire for the destruction of Israel.
Jordan and Israel have had a peace treaty since 1994. Jordan helped intercept some missiles and/or drones Iran launched towards Israel since October 7th.
Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 during their civil war. Israel invaded Lebanon in 2006. They've had a cease fire agreement since last year.
Israel occupies the Golan Heights, and has taken control of more Syrian territory since the fall of the Assad regime. Israel agreed to disengage from the Golan Heights in 1974. Since then, Israel has placed 25,000 settlers in the Golan Heights and passed funding in 2021 to double the amount of Israeli settlers in the area.
So that's the four countries that border Israel. What are the other two you are referring to?
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:57 am to scottydoesntknow
I don't belive anything from either side!
Everything we the people are told are what they want us to believe.
Everything we the people are told are what they want us to believe.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 9:58 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:02 am to Murph4HOF
Those treaties occurred after failed invasions of Israel and those Arab states decided they'd had enough of getting their asses kicked.
It's basically what the Palestinians have refused to do.
It's basically what the Palestinians have refused to do.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:04 am to 632627
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Those treaties occurred after failed invasions of Israel and those Arab states decided they'd had enough of getting their asses kicked.
And?
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:10 am to Mo Jeaux
The poster I was replying too implied Israel was surrounded by benevolent neighbors, when in fact those relationships were forged through Israeli victory in war.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:10 am to 632627
quote:For Egypt, yeah. And Israel gave the Sinai back to Egypt and the US agreed to give Egypt a bunch of foreign aid. Jordan and Israel hadn't been at war in over 20 years. Jordan even kicked the PLO out in the mid-1970s. The status quo would have been okay, but Uncle Sugar provided an incentive for an actual peace treaty.
Those treaties occurred after failed invasions of Israel and those Arab states decided they'd had enough of getting their asses kicked.
quote:Why should they? US official policy is for a Two State solution and has been since 2002. Since then, there have been at least 500K new Israeli settlers in the West Bank.
It's basically what the Palestinians have refused to do
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:12 am to 632627
quote:With a shite ton of US foreign aid and US military support.
those relationships were forged through Israeli victory in war.
Israel hasn't won a war without external support since they rebelled against the British Mandate.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:18 am to theballguy
quote:Plus, the Iranian government openly funds and arms terrorist organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah. If Iran stop doing just this, there would be far less conflict in the Middle East. Israel has no conflict with many Muslim countries that border them. Egypt and Jordan come to mind. Every country that is in conflict with Isreal, has close ties to Iran.
Btw, nobody doubts their people aren't good folks. Their government in case you weren't aware, is really shite. Do you realize their government has no problem in going out, picking scapegoats for various minor infractions and torturing them? They do this almost daily.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:19 am to 632627
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The poster I was replying too implied Israel was surrounded by benevolent neighbors, when in fact those relationships were forged through Israeli victory in war.
I'm still missing your point.
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