re: Iowa POTUS Candidate speeches tonight- DeSantis sounded like the next POTUS... on fire

Trump in his super high energy way managed to..... read off a boring speech and brag about his poll numbers and then tried to end with some Biden thing to get people to yell and get excited.

He has no plan and it is amazing how many people don't understand that. He also looks like a completely different guy than 2016 but they don't want to see that either.

Trump has no plan!? We have seen Trump policies in action. The country was booming under him before Covid and that was with one hand tied behind his back. Like him or not his policies work and he bring instant credibility to the U.S. on the world stage. Bad actors know they have to start behaving again. Fear will enter the equation again.

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DeSantis will never garner enough of the America First/MAGA voters to win an election being timid.

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You can down vote but that’s simply a fact.

Will Hurd - was going to skip until I heard Suarez say "thanks Will, you made it easy on me"

... shared he was bi-racial via discussion and did not call himself black, a good public speaker, solid background as member of Congress and in tech ... might be a good 3rd party VP candidate

... "I'm not going to kiss anybody's butt ... I'm not going to lick anybody's boots ... we've have to win elections ... it's been 20 years since a Republican has won the popular vote on a national left... we lost the House in 2018, we lost the White House and the Senate in 2020 ... we all know how bad Joe Biden's numbers are ... he can be beat ... and the reason Donald Trump lost the election in 2020 is he failed to grow the GOP brand ... (a boo and an applause) ... one of the things we need in our elected leaders is to tell the truth even if it is unpopular ... (dead quiet) ... Donald Trump is not running for President to make America great again ... Donald Trump is not running for President to represent the people who voted for him in 2016 and 2020 ... Donald Trump is running to stay out of prison ... (OUCH) ... (boos from Always Trumpers) ...I know the truth is hard ... if we elect Donald Trump we are only giving Joe Biden 4 more years in the WH ...and America can't handle that ... God Bless you and God Bless America." the end

Downvoting’s for wusses. Alright, so what they propose is that Desantis would be able to replace any such losses like you mentioned with folks from the middle. Independents and such. And not only would he have to replace any MAGA losses, but also have to convince a.certain amount of crossover voters anyway, to compensate for the existing numbers advantage the Democrat already has built in.

So somehow this supposed hardcore conservative residing at the further right end of the spectrum, he’ll have to convince that many independents and moderates to come to him, despite some likely stark differences in positions on the most contentious issues of the day.

I don’t know what’s going with them. They doing the reefers or something.

There’s a minimum of 30-40 million America First types……that’s significant.

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You’re in the ditch, I said DeSantis needs millions of America First/MAGA voters, DeSantis needs to prove he’s the alpha male to lead the movement…..that is all.

Doesn't exist without Trump

America First is now Trump First

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Call it what you want, DeSantis needs at least 80% of the America First/MAGA vote to have any chance.

Mayor Suarez -

"Thanks Will you just made it very easy for me" ... (laughs) ... (comfortable on stage) ... even though he was not bad, performance wise below Scott and about equal to Pence - based on crowd response.


... I think people were still thinking about Hurd speech.

... skipping Binkley for now - who is he? ... and Elder.

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Call it what you want, DeSantis needs at least 80% of the America First/MAGA vote to have any chance.

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So "America" First would sit it out if RDS was the nominee?