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re: Interesting Article About SSRI's. HHS Director Kennedy vs Congress

Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:53 pm to
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I’m actually pretty firm against therapy as well.

You mean paying to talk to a liberal until you agree with them?
Posted by SlidellCajun
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:10 pm to
It shouldn’t be hard to obtain data to show a connection between ssri uptake inhibitors and their usage by mass murderers.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:28 pm to
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but pain management specialists. One of them was double board certified in both neurology and pain management, so I don't think he was an idiot.
There it is. So you were/are underestimating his knowledge. No biggie. Again that is very common. Similar to your comments re: psychiatrists which is the only real tie to the OP in all of this.

Working with physical therapists in the context of functional restoration/rehabilitation is a component of pain fellowships, along with exposure to OT, psychology, and behavioral medicine. So your doc would have had that obligatory exposure, whether or not he let on.

FWIW, your PM&R MD affordability comments didn't make sense initially, as the vast majority of pain docs are PM&R or Anesthesiologists. In compensation terms, PM&R's generally pull about 2/3rds what their Anesthesiology brethren do. Hence, my query regarding the "why not" former.

But Neurology based docs do usually lag both in income terms. Neuro-Pain docs were/are extremely uncommon (uncommon .. as in basically nonexistent TTBOMK) in the communities I've associated with. But N-P jibes with your observations re: affordability and limited procedures, and makes more sense.

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the medical lobby in Alabama is very strong and they keep salaries for physicians very high ... Alabama had the second highest average physician salary in the country behind only California.
Yikes!

First, again just FYI, the "medical lobby" has little to nothing to do with MD salaries. Neither in Alabama, nor any state. There might be scenarios in which there was/is an effect on income. Second, Alabama has never ranked that highly re: MD incomes. It might be better in PPP terms, but here is an example:
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Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:47 pm to
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TD is right though, aside from something like amytal or lorazepam interviews, Psych is too poorly reimbursed to introduce the additional inefficiencies of couch chats.


Yeah, I addressed that. Clearly.

There's not enough money in it.

That's what y'all mean by "inefficient."
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 4:06 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 4:05 pm to
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There it is. So you were/are underestimating his knowledge.




What a fricking bulbous headed, blue veined, pulsing prick you are being.

No, I didn't underestimate anything. You weren't there, you don't know, and you didn't answer the question, which means that you don't want to admit that you don't know what the frick you're talking about.

What are you, a GP? Dermatologist? Just how unrelated is your speciality to what you're acting like you have inside knowledge about?

We both know why you didn't answer the question. Because your only qualification to act like you know what a neurologist/pain management specialist does or doesn't know about PT is that you may have had some PT once or twice, probably on your neck, from carrying around that enormous dick head of yours.

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So your doc would have had that obligatory exposure, whether or not he let on.


Great, he probably had to take a nutrition class or two as well. Tell me how much he knew about nutrition (less than nothing is the answer).

And yes, the medical lobby does impact salaries, due to simple economics. When mid-levels are restricted from doing things that they can do in virtually every other state, you can't save the money of employing a mid-level...you have to hire a full MD.

When everyone has to hire a full MD, it's a buyer's market because it exacerbates a shortage that was already there. What happens when demand exceeds supply?

You tell me, Amazing Kreskin.

Now, I don't know if the information I saw on the matter was adjusted and compared for cost of living (my guess), or if it was just old data (despite your claim, nothing you posted proves anything about the market 6 or 8 or 10 years ago...I was in that game for 18 years), or both, but I know how simple economics works and very probably unlike you, I was actually on the hiring end of the equation. In Alabama.

Let's find out. After you answer the original question about your speciality, answer these two, please: Have you ever employed/hired an MD at all? If so, was it in Alabama?






Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 4:14 pm to
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That article is poorly written with parsed quotes, assumptions, and no actual scientific data. But if it fits your narrative….



Once we started mass produced therapy and drugs that go along with therapy, we had an increase in mass shooters.


I find it funny we talk about the mental health crisis in this country. But mental health awareness is pushed more now than ever.



And the side effects of some of these drugs are things like mood swings, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, etc...



And here are your sides of giving your children add meds...

New or worsening manic or psychotic symptoms (such as hallucinations, delusions, or aggression) can occur, even in patients without a prior history of mental health conditions.


Hmm, similar side effects to meth use. Go figure.




This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 4:20 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 4:23 pm to
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What a fricking bulbous headed, blue veined, pulsing prick you are being.


PT? What is the best, most important medical course you took? Gross anatomy? It would have to be way up there, no?

This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 4:24 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 4:36 pm to
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Great, he probably had to take a nutrition class or two as well.
Did he? Really? No?
BUT, aside from a nutrition class or two, HE DID HAVE TO LEARN ABOUT PT!

I don't get your obstinance here.

You act like I'm suggesting the dude could have done your job.
I'm not.

But to suggest he'd not have known when to refer a Thoracic Outlet Syndrome Case to PT, or what to expect of decompressive physical therapy, is ... silly .... to be kind.

I do not get your beef in a Psychiatric drug thread.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 4:40 pm to
I hate to break it to you but doctors don’t know how long it is safe to stay on them and how it impacts your brain long term
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 4:48 pm to
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I know how simple economics works and very probably unlike you, I was actually on the hiring end of the equation. In Alabama.

Let's find out. After you answer the original question about your speciality, answer these two, please: Have you ever employed/hired an MD at all? If so, was it in Alabama?

I've been owner/partner in several medical corporations.
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 3:14 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 4:50 pm to
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I hate to break it to you but doctors don’t know how long it is safe to stay on them and how it impacts your brain long term
That is fair.
Certainly not because those impacts are unconsidered in studies. But we do not have the brain figured out. Not even close.
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