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re: Intelligence Directors All Testify to Russian Election Interfence
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:52 am to AlaTiger
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:52 am to AlaTiger
quote:Proven by what methods? Either way.... this proves the election was not altered.
- said they did not hack voting machines or change vote totals
quote:They'd have to be mind-readers, so this is completely stupid to even be addressed.
- said they cannot determine what kind of affect they had on choices Americans made
quote:HA! HA! The fricking intelligence service did not even provide any forensics examination of the computers in question!
- said that Posesta and DNC hacks had clear Russian fingerprints on them. It was as though Russia wanted us to know.
quote:Exactly!
- said that "fake news" is coming from Russian sources (not sure what they meant by this. Didn't elaborate).
quote:Must... continue... cold.... war.... with.... Russia.... for.... our.... military.... industrial.... complex.... and.... our.... own.... departmental.... budgets!
- were all unanimous that Russia, as a state actor, was involved with interfering in our election process through the DNC hacks, releasing info, propoganda, fake news, etc.
quote:Based on what evidence? The release of emails that were obtained by either a hack or by malware, or from the WMD's in Iraq lies he spread? Oh, wait.... the intelligence community spread those lies, not Assange.
- all said that Assange is not credible in his assertions
$3.7 trillion dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives have been wasted because of "Intelligence" lies, but... "RUSSIANS!!"
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:52 am to Andrew Rowan
Okay. So they are all lying. What is the motive?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:54 am to AlaTiger
Rev. Cruz in the house...
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:54 am to AlaTiger
I think the reticence to accept this by Trump and Republicans on general isn't that Russia os behind the leaks, it's the leap the left is making with the information...
If you're going to attempt to use it as a tool to say Trumo didn't legitimately win the election, you're gonna get a lot of push back.
As soon as we can get to the point that the left let's go of that notion, the sooner we can come together and deal with the real issue
If you're going to attempt to use it as a tool to say Trumo didn't legitimately win the election, you're gonna get a lot of push back.
As soon as we can get to the point that the left let's go of that notion, the sooner we can come together and deal with the real issue
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:55 am to AlaTiger
Are you so obtuse to think that this is the first attempt by Russia to interfere with our process? Do we no do the same as evidenced throughout the world? Why is this some hot topic at this moment, could it maybe have to do with the fact that Trump is not a political stooge as the other candidates...
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:56 am to AlaTiger
quote:
were all unanimous that Russia, as a state actor, was involved with interfering in our election process through the DNC hacks, releasing info, propoganda, fake news, etc.
That isn't "interfering with our election process".
At all.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:56 am to AlaTiger
quote:Self preservation? It's politics.
Okay. So they are all lying. What is the motive?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:56 am to FooManChoo
Tim Kaine is on... god this guy is in the closet so hard.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:58 am to TROLA
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Are you so obtuse to think that this is the first attempt
I have no idea. I'm just saying what the Intelligence Directors are saying.
This board believes that Russia had no part in the hacking or interference. Now, you are saying they do it all the time. Seems like a big deal to me. So, which is it? They didn't do it or they did and they do it all the time?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:58 am to FooManChoo
quote:
Self preservation? It's politics.
Then they should be siding with Trump to curry favor with the new administration.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:59 am to Lakeboy7
quote:
I guess all 17 agencies are lying? bullshite
The real question is why is Trump defending Putin?
Anyone still arguing that the Russian government didn't attempt to influence this election is either lying or hopelessly naive. Trump and the Congress have the opportunity here to accept these findings and shove them up Putin's arse. It's time we get serious about cyberwarfare. Who better to spearhead it than an administration that may have derived at least some benefit from it?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:00 am to AlaTiger
I posted this in the other thread...
quote:
Exposing corruption so people can make informed decisions is not interference. It used to be the media's job.
The only thing Russia interfered with was the liberals plan to to continue our country down the wrong path by lying to our faces and cheating during the process.
How come Donna Brazille isn't being accused of interfering with the elections? We've seen hard proof that she most certainly did.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:01 am to dpd901
quote:
I think the reticence to accept this by Trump and Republicans on general isn't that Russia os behind the leaks, it's the leap the left is making with the information...
If you're going to attempt to use it as a tool to say Trumo didn't legitimately win the election, you're gonna get a lot of push back.
As soon as we can get to the point that the left let's go of that notion, the sooner we can come together and deal with the real issue
I don't think you can say that Trump did not legitimately win the election. He clearly did. Anyone protesting the result of the election is just wrong. The Intelligence Directors did not say anything along those lines nor did questioning go that way at all.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:01 am to AlaTiger
quote:
They all seem to be in agreement with no dissent. Why? If this is all a ruse, it is going to be revealed in a couple of weeks when Trump comes in. They will have perjured themselves. All of them.
What are they gaining here? Help me understand
Everything has been politicized, it's all a distraction to de-legitimize the election.
The Russians burned my toast this morning.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:03 am to AlaTiger
Did the Russians give Hillary debate questions?
Did the Russian poll numbers convince Hillary to not campaign in Wisconsin?
Did the Russians tell Podesta how to reply to his emails?
I could go on and ask more questions, but frankly I don't care how the information came to light - I'm focused on content.
Was it a Russian internet movie that caused Benghazi?
Did the Russian poll numbers convince Hillary to not campaign in Wisconsin?
Did the Russians tell Podesta how to reply to his emails?
I could go on and ask more questions, but frankly I don't care how the information came to light - I'm focused on content.
Was it a Russian internet movie that caused Benghazi?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:04 am to Navytiger74
quote:
Anyone still arguing that the Russian government didn't attempt to influence this election is either lying or hopelessly naive. Trump and the Congress have the opportunity here to accept these findings and shove them up Putin's arse. It's time we get serious about cyberwarfare. Who better to spearhead it than an administration that may have derived at least some benefit from it?
Agreed. I have no idea why Trump isn't telling Russia to butt out. He said for months the election would be rigged. He obviously thinks it is possible. Here you have Intel Directors saying that the voting machines were not hacked or altered in any way. So, how could the election be illegitimate. That isn't on the table. But, other things did happen that are not good, especially coming from a foreign power. Trump has a chance to be strong and protect America from attack. Why wouldn't he?
Maybe he will after he gets the briefing.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:04 am to Navytiger74
quote:
Who better to spearhead it than an administration that may have derived at least some benefit from it?
Tillerson was the last nail in the coffin, Trump is about to make billions in the oil and gas game.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:06 am to AlaTiger
If the DNC emails were falsified I'd have a problem with this. They were real though, and the people deserved to know. I don't care who hacked it.
And everyone in the world has a vested interest in who wins the presidency. Russia running social media platforms or news sites that are pro trump is no different than the UK running pro Hillary/anti trump news.
It's the age of the Internet and this will be the norm from here on out. It's up to the voters to research and form their own opinion
And everyone in the world has a vested interest in who wins the presidency. Russia running social media platforms or news sites that are pro trump is no different than the UK running pro Hillary/anti trump news.
It's the age of the Internet and this will be the norm from here on out. It's up to the voters to research and form their own opinion
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:06 am to AlaTiger
Great questions.
Here's another:
Where's the proof?
Here's another:
Where's the proof?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:06 am to stat19
quote:
Did the Russians give Hillary debate questions?
Did the Russian poll numbers convince Hillary to not campaign in Wisconsin?
Did the Russians tell Podesta how to reply to his emails?
What are you talking about?
Stop replying to the propoganda from the Left. I'm not asserting any of that at all. Hillary was a terrible candidate and the DNC is run by incompetents. All by themselves.
None of that is being questioned here. You are responding to other arguments that you are upset about.
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