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re: Intelligence and cultural/societal outcomes
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yeah but that's just one decision. a major mistake, but just one
Sure
But phaggot OP is essentially trying to say that decision making and intelligence are completely correlated. This simply isn't the case. Wisdom and intelligence aren't the same thing.
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:28 pm to Strannix
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They make a ton of compounding bad decisions, usually because their low IQ parents did the same.
Plenty of fat rich people out there
TRUMP for instance
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:28 pm to Lakeboy7
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This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:28 pm to Powerman
Being able to comprehend and learn from experiences (wisdom) is absolutely correlated to intelligence
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:28 pm to Strannix
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If this is true why are we enabling or subsidizing groups with these genetic traits to reproduce at much faster rates than higher IQ groups who make better decisions?
Votes. Politicians' appetite for power and control is insatiable.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:29 pm to Strannix
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They make a ton of compounding bad decisions, usually because their low IQ parents did the same.
People are often products of their environments.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm about t go to Kroger and there's at least a 25% chance that my mind will be literally blown at the idiocy i see at self checkout
Well, don't go to Walmart, because that percentage will go up.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but it's about the only reason to stay here
Look its callous as frick but its the truth, and its very profitable.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:30 pm to Salmon
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Being able to comprehend and learn from experiences (wisdom) is absolutely correlated to intelligence
Sure but some of it is cultural
OP won't say what he's really thinking on the matter
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:31 pm to Strannix
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Is it safe to say that genetic groups with lower average IQ's tend to make poor decisions that affect outcomes? If this is true why are we enabling or subsidizing groups with these genetic traits to reproduce at much faster rates than higher IQ groups who make better decisions?
Aren't these policies much more dangerous to humanity long term than any type of environmental effects?
I remember Singapore has a policy encouraging its citizens with higher education to reproduce.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:31 pm to Powerman
Look. OP is a legit Nazi and is probably about to turn this into a thread for eugenics.
But so far he hasn’t stated anything wrong.
But so far he hasn’t stated anything wrong.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:32 pm to Strannix
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If this is true why are we enabling or subsidizing groups with these genetic traits to reproduce at much faster rates than higher IQ groups who make better decisions?
Because it’s not our place to decide who gets to have kids. It’s sort of the catch of liberty. Everyone has the right to life. Even the really stupid.
Not that I have ill wishes for anyone. Just saying what I think.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:32 pm to Lakeboy7
i say that publicly b/c i fear i'm about to have that talk with the gf b/c i think she wants to move but i'm kind of invested here for the time being. LC is one of the few legit economic producing areas in the state. i've finally found some efficient ways to increase my client population to snag a few big cases down the line. it would be insane to walk away at this point
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:33 pm to Strannix
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for example would you say that on average better outcomes occur in Hong Kong vs. Equitorial Guinea?
Which happen to be first and last in IQ by country
It's somewhat of a chicken and egg issue here
Do you think that Hong Kong is thriving only because of IQ and Guinea is suffering because of the same?
If you think it's all that simple then you ARE one of the low IQ individuals.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:34 pm to DeafJam73
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Because it’s not our place to decide who gets to have kids. It’s sort of the catch of liberty. Everyone has the right to life. Even the really stupid.
i think he's talking about the subsidies more than steralization
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:35 pm to Powerman
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Do you think that Hong Kong is thriving only because of IQ and Guinea is suffering because of the same?
If you think it's all that simple then you ARE one of the low IQ individuals.
you can improve a population's IQ over time
hell it happens in the developed West (See: the Flynn Effect)
also the way we test IQ does have limitations based around communication of ideas and how the recipient conceptualizes things.
an undeveloped population will simply lack the understanding of what is even possible, in terms of conceptualization of ideas. abstract thinking doesn't just appear
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:38 pm to Powerman
If Steve jobs was actually a bad decision maker you never would have heard of him.
Dumbass
Dumbass
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you can improve a population's IQ over time
hell it happens in the developed West (See: the Flynn Effect)
also the way we test IQ does have limitations based around communication of ideas and how the recipient conceptualizes things.
That and environment plays more of a role than people like to think
IQ tests are intended to be as neutral as possible but it can't account for something like malnutrition
Take one of these genius Hong Kong babies at birth and immediately transplant it into a country like Chad and I'm sure you're not going to get the same IQ result
The idea that this is all raw genetics is silly
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i think he's talking about the subsidies more than steralization
Well the point stands, I think. You can’t hold it against people for being less intelligent. You are either intelligent or you aren’t. However, there are other ways to make sure that the ones who really need it and work for it actually get it while preventing societal leeches from taking advantage of tax payers.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:48 pm to Strannix
Several ways to raise a population's IQ:
1) Immigration of intelligent people
2) Environmental clean up (e.g., lead) and strict environmental controls
3) Education
1) Immigration of intelligent people
2) Environmental clean up (e.g., lead) and strict environmental controls
3) Education
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