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re: Inside the Mind of Edward Snowden - NBC interview

Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35614 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:48 pm to
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He broke the law and damaged American security. He accomplished jackshit except feed his own narcissism. Let him choke on it in fricking Russia.


That's a pretty lazy take on this subject IMO.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63707 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:51 pm to
You can go do your own research because I think you'll find it interesting. But I will say that Michael Hayden's analysis, the DIA assessment, and a couple of others are a good start.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63707 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:53 pm to
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That's a pretty lazy take on this subject IMO.


No moreso than the slobbering pablum, disguised as righteous indignation at our "overreaching" government, that has been mouthed by this a-hole's admirers.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:55 pm to
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Let him choke on it in fricking Russia.


Did he talk about being a spy with the CIA, DIA and FBI? or was it the NAACP or UNCF.

Mr. Snowden is at about 14:45
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35614 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:59 pm to
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No moreso than the slobbering pablum, disguised as righteous indignation at our "overreaching" government, that has been mouthed by this a-hole's admirers.


So you're comfortable with being on their level?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:59 pm to
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Can you provide specific examples?



I will say he's caused the intelligence community an awful lot of headaches and made it harder for them to do their jobs.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9137 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:02 pm to
So, government having direct access to your every communication is NOT overreach? You've got to be naive as a mofo to believe this kind of data collection isn't a jackpot for powerful people who would like to coerce/blackmail other people.

I don't trust government as far as I can throw them... and Snowden confirmed our suspicions.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262605 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:05 pm to
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No moreso than the slobbering pablum, disguised as righteous indignation at our "overreaching" government, that has been mouthed by this a-hole's admirers.


I don't admire the guy. I appreciate what he helped bring to light though.

I'll bet if Bush were still in office that the left would support the hell out of Snowden.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33569 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:06 pm to
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I will say he's caused the intelligence community an awful lot of headaches and made it harder for them to do their jobs.



So what? So what if it's harder for them to do their jobs if the easy way was so grossly against the basic rights of US citizens?

And VOR, I HAVE done my own research. I'm asking YOU to provide specific examples to back up your assertion.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:18 pm to
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Can you provide specific examples?
Good luck with that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262605 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:23 pm to
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So what? So what if it's harder for them to do their jobs if the easy way was so grossly against the basic rights of US citizens?


Yep. I'd call casting that wide of a net pure laziness.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:25 pm to
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No moreso than the slobbering pablum, disguised as righteous indignation at our "overreaching" government, that has been mouthed by this a-hole's admirers.
that is beautiful written and I don't even know what it means but I'm pretty sure I don't agree with it.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:27 pm to
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So what? So what if it's harder for them to do their jobs if the easy way was so grossly against the basic rights of US citizens?



Your ignorance is quite amusing. By making it harder for the intel community to do their jobs, you are making it easier for Americans to get killed.


Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:33 pm to
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Your ignorance is quite amusing. By making it harder for the intel community to do their jobs, you are making it easier for Americans to get killed.

They make it easier for Americans to get killed by spying on Americans instead of the enemy.

Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:35 pm to
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Your ignorance is quite amusing. By making it harder for the intel community to do their jobs, you are making it easier for Americans to get killed.
it would be a lot easier for police to do their jobs if they could stop and search every vehicle at every intersection whenever they wanted as well. The only difference is the police are inconveniencing everyone with their stops. The NSA on the other hand is searching your car while it's parked in your garage and your asleep.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16931 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:35 pm to
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I was already a supporter of Snowden. This interview cemented it.




Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33569 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:36 pm to
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Your ignorance is quite amusing. By making it harder for the intel community to do their jobs, you are making it easier for Americans to get killed.


Your ignorance and complacency would be amusing if it wasn't so dangerous. Our government is collecting and asserting power - a very broad and intrusive power - without citizens' consent. Americans can't give consent to such power because we don't fully know what powers they have collected for them selves and we wouldn't know as much as we do now without Snowden. Many more Americans are at risk when the government is allowed to collect any private info they want - and even more of what they don't want know but will hold on to in case they ever decide they need it - and use it in any way they choose in the collective name of "National Security."

What a lazy arse response - headaches, nameless imaginary Americans might get killed, name calling. Get that shite out of here.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:40 pm to
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The NSA on the other hand is searching your car while it's parked in your garage and your asleep.


You're under the assumption that Snowdengate only effects the so-called domestic spy program. How foolish.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:43 pm to
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Get that shite out of here.


You get your shite out of here. I'm a sailor in the U.S. Navy and am part of the community you so vehemently hate. Snowden's leaks go well beyond the so-called domestic surveillance program. That is 100% *fact*.

Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33569 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:43 pm to
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How foolish.


At, least he could provide an example. Your just slinging poo.
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