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re: Inept Russian military is about to capture the city of Mariupol

Posted on 4/17/22 at 5:46 pm to
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 5:46 pm to
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So the capture of Mariupol is a victory for the "military industrial complex" in this country?


No. This war is a victory for the military industrial complex. It’s also a victory for the corrupt politicians who receive “campaign contributions” and who knows what else from them.

Just like Afghanistan. Just like Iraq. They are always the winners.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26893 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 5:47 pm to
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This whole thing is like Al Capone's gang fighting it out with Bugs Moran in Chicago. Not sure why I need to pick a side.



Pretty much. The political polarization of this one is weird to me.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 6:40 pm to
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Our government is more corrupt than any government on earth

This is laughably stupid


Yes. However if you wanted to quantify/define the variable corruption*influence = x, that variable is something we take the cake in.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 7:52 pm to
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This is laughably stupid


We’re the richest country on earth, there’s so much money to steal. At the same time, our raw wealth makes the theft less obvious.

I don’t think we’re the worst, that can’t possibly be true, but I believe smaller homogeneous countries are much less corrupt.
This post was edited on 4/17/22 at 8:10 pm
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 8:02 pm to
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We’re the richest country on earth


We’re 30 trillion in the hole and the Fed can’t raise interest rates without crashing the economy.

Ok
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43889 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:27 pm to
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Somehow against all odds the clumsy and fumbling Russian military is about to capture a city of 430,000 people.

Even with the all that US aid it seems that the Russians have found a way for a win.



Russia expected to capture it within the first 24-48 hours of the invasion. It took them over 7 weeks. That is not a win.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9280 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:38 pm to
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Russia expected to capture it within the first 24-48 hours of the invasion.


How do you know this or did you just make it up?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:40 pm to
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How do you know this or did you just make it up?


Since when do you require evidence for your beliefs???
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9280 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:44 pm to
Calm down cwill, the price of oil is rising
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:46 pm to
And natty gas, and those are actual facts.
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:47 pm to
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How do you know this or did you just make it up?


CNN, and Fox news told him
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:47 pm to
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Russia expected to capture it within the first 24-48 hours of the invasion


Did you hear that from the media? Jesus, this projection isn’t even remotely believable. It would take that long just to get there in the best of conditions in war
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22507 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:51 pm to
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The real winners in all of this conflict? The Industrial Military Complex.


blah, blah, blah
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
125951 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:55 pm to
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Russia expected to capture it within the first 24-48 hours of the invasion.
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WeeWee
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21692 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:09 pm to
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Even with the all that US aid it seems that the Russians have found a way for a win.


Can we define winning? What do they win exactly?

Even if they hadn't retreated Kyiv and conquered all of Ukraine, Russia is a pariah state to the rest of the world for the foreseeable future with long term heavy economic sanctions.

How is the juice worth that squeeze?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43889 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:14 pm to
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Did you hear that from the media? Jesus, this projection isn’t even remotely believable. It would take that long just to get there in the best of conditions in war


Maybe if the Russian army was marching to Mariupol.

Do you even know where Mariupol is? The city center of Mariupol is less than 60 km from the Russian border. The city center of Mariupol is less than 25 km from the pre-invasion demarcation line between Ukrainian government held territory and the DPR.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28988 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:32 pm to
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Mariupol


It is a hard core Neo-Nazi enclave. Hopefully the Russians killed most of them and Ukraine will retake it later.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
24886 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:32 pm to
Welcome back homie!
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
52959 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 11:52 pm to
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city of Mariupol by sawtooth
Somehow against all odds the clumsy and fumbling Russian military is about to capture a city of 430,000 people.


50 days to capture Savannah...congrats comrade!
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4106 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:54 am to
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I’m sure the fine folks of Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, (insert country here) are all very thankful we came into their country to preserve our constitution.


“The Enemy of my Enemy is my friend”…
They(Potato & Co.) are on the verge of losing 1.8 billion Indians and they hate the Chinese.
The successful coup the CIA just pulled-off in Pakistan will completely de-stabilize a nuclear power.
None of those countries like nor trust one another, as a matter of fact, they fricking hate and despise one another.
But whom do they all hate with a burning passion?
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