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In light of the IC abetting Epstein crimes Darryl Cooper with an X post to fix the problem

Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:56 am
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
258 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:56 am


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The FBI and CIA must be abolished, and their necessary functions should be distributed to other agencies. Such powerful, secretive institutions must have the implicit trust of the people, or else our political culture is irreparably corrupted by endemic suspicion.

Reorganizing the functions of the FBI would be relatively easy, but the CIA would put up a fight. The only way to rein in the CIA is to lock in support from the DoD. The Pentagon has shouldered the blame for one catastrophe after another because of CIA operations gone bad. For example, the DoD was resistant to Obama’s CIA-led war against the Assad regime from the start. Bob Gates resigned as SECDEF because of it. He was replaced by CIA chief Leon Panetta, who was charged w/keeping the DoD in line as new CIA chief David Patreus led the dirty war in Syria. For years, DoD personnel were forced to arm and train the very jihadists who’d been killing their friends in Iraq. When Russia and Iran spoiled the party, anonymously-sourced (CIA-planted) editorials began appearing in the corporate press demanding that Obama order the US military to salvage the CIA’s clandestine war. The DoD had no intention of doing that. DoD personnel charged with training jihadists in Jordan were already in near-mutiny over it, and DoD forces steadfastly remained in the northeast, working with the Kurds against ISIS and simply refusing to aid the international jihad against Damascus. In at least one instance, DoD-backed forces engaged in combat w/CIA-backed jihadist militias. When CIA clandestine operations go sideways, they always run to the Pentagon to bail them out. US military personnel are the ones killed, and they are the ones blamed when the cleanup proves impossible.

There are plenty at the Pentagon who resent this and would gladly support a permanent solution. Turn the CIA into an office full of desk-bound dweebs reading foreign newspapers and NSA intercepts, and providing reports to the President. Move *all* of CIA’s operational functions to the Defense Intelligence Agency, where it will be led by uniformed personnel w/better understanding of their obligations to the American people, and who will more carefully consider the consequences of bad intelligence and clandestine operations, since they are the ones who will have to deal with them. CIA has spied US politicians, framed them for crimes, smeared them in the press, interfered in elections, and any politician that might move against CIA knows they’ll go even further. Full support from the Pentagon is necessary if the CIA is to be brought under control, because it’s the only institution w/the weight to overcome the CIA’s inevitable retaliation.

Even if you are a defender of FBI & CIA, you should agree that institutions w/their power and culture of secrecy can only exist with the implicit trust of the people, and that, with their actions from MKULTRA to COINTELPRO, from Watergate to RussiaGate, they have lost the trust of nearly everyone. Breaking them apart would be a good start to a long process of rebuilding trust.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:59 am to
Wish he would drop podcast content more often
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
16962 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:03 am to
Of course it must be done. I do believe we have the right people in charge now to make it happen.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
3966 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:07 am to
after what cia and fbi did to trump during russiagate, you would think trump would have suggested this. but no. during his first term on day one, the first thing he did was drive out to cia and talk about how great they are.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
258 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:08 am to
Darryl is right. The CIA needs to be placed under Pentagon authority. Trump needs to gather Pentagon leadership, get their buy in and make the move.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66069 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:09 am to
Kash has gone from wanting to break the deep state to becoming a deep state puppet.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
16962 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:09 am to
POTUS Trump understands history. He knows more about the JFK assassination than we do.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5608 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:12 am to
List all of the examples of evidence that point to Massie not being a member of the Deep State. You seem to be very assured that he is above reproach, based on what exactly? His word and Tweets, that seems pretty naive
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66069 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:13 am to
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List all of the examples of evidence that point to Massie not being a member of the Deep State.

Why are you picking on Massie? He is the most independent of thinkers in DC.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
16962 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:14 am to
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Darryl is right. The CIA needs to be placed under Pentagon authority. Trump needs to gather Pentagon leadership, get their buy in and make the move.



Exactly. First, take Brennan and Milley down criminally and let them hang from sunrise to sunset on the White House lawn for their treasonous activity. Then, POTUS Trump makes that move as mentioned above.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
258 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:15 am to
By moving CIA operations under the Department of War it will now force this agency to account for the risk of their clandestine activities going sideways. As it stands right now the CIA mitigates downside risk by placing it on the DoD and the DoD cleaning up their mess when things don’t quite work out.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
258 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:20 am to
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Kash has gone from wanting to break the deep state to becoming a deep state puppet.


I highly suspect the FBI is lead by the nose by the CIA. Get the CIA under department of war authority and the dynamic between the people and the FBI changes in a very positive direction, IMO.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5608 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:21 am to
Oh so you have had personal conversations with him about his political views? You entire perception of Massie in this particular issue, quit getting sidetracked, is based off of Tweets and press conferences. Are you suggesting he is incapable of enjoying the spotlight just as much as millions of other politicians throughout history?
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
8644 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:32 am to
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Why are you picking on Massie? He is the most independent of thinkers in DC.


Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47785 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:51 am to
I agree that the CIA - if it ever was pure - now way too much resembles a rogue agency that has its own rules & seems to have a veto power over any outside 'interference'
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