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No - they should find out firsthand from those hackers just how bad the security was that allowed the hack in the first place.

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No - they should find out firsthand from those hackers just how bad the security was that allowed the hack in the first place.

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So the law is irrelevant if the victim doesn't have proper security? If you forget to lock your car and someone steals it, the criminal should not be held liable? Or are you making a special case for hacking?

Hackers living in the US?

Sure.

Hackers who are members of a foreign military and over whom we lack jurisdiction?

No.

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So the law is irrelevant if the victim doesn't have proper security? If you forget to lock your car and someone steals it, the criminal should not be held liable? Or are you making a special case for hacking?

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republicans blame women for getting raped, so this position isn't really a surprise.

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Hackers who are members of a foreign military and over whom we lack jurisdiction?

No.

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So you disagree with prosecuting Chinese hackers who steal information from American companies, for example? If your information was stolen, you wouldn't want anything to happen?

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In general, should the Justice Department prosecute hackers?

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Yes.

Your point?

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Yeah. I would.

But prosecuting people we have no physical access to ain't doing shite.

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Then what should we do?

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Sometimes, there's nothing you CAN do.

I mean, I get that the real world can sometimes frustrate the liberal mind. But reality is, "do something!!!!!" is just a dumb way to live.

Either you can do something substantive or you can't. If you can't, then, you simply try to prevent it from happening again.

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So the justice department should just cease indicting hackers who aren't located in the US?

Just for fun, let's say that the Mexican government hacks into the US government servers to steal immigration information (I know, highly improbable). We should do nothing?

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So the justice department should just cease indicting hackers who aren't located in the US?

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Why indict someone you can't ever hope to lay your hands on?

I mean, you keep acting like this is some appalling concept. But honestly, "indicting" them is little more than yelling "nanny nanny boo boo, stick your head in doo doo".

It's pure symbolism.

Is this the right time for me to once again raise the issue of whether a foreign computer hack job that causes significant economic harm to the USA can be defined as an "armed attack" under International Law?

Because I remember raising this issue about 3 or 4 years ago around here and nobody then was interested in a serious conversation.

Right now, we have Democrats telling us that "Russia Election Meddling"* is an Act of War against the USA, so, I thought that my question might have found the right time to be discussed.

* This "meddling" has caused no discernible harm at all to the USA, other than rustling jimmies.