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re: In fundraising speech, Trump says he made up trade claim in meeting with Justin Trudeau
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:02 am to LSURussian
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:02 am to LSURussian
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So you're sticking with that and ignoring the other facts that show there is a deficit with Canada, even according to Canada's numbers? When you do that all you're doing is letting everyone know you don't tell the truth.
You can tell a lie as many times as you want, won't make it true. Here it is again from the Office of the US Trade Representative, which sits under, the Executive office of the President.
U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $627.8 billion in 2016. Exports were $320.1 billion; imports were $307.6 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $12.5 billion in 2016.
LINK
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:04 am to Yak
quote:
For probably the 25th time, the Canadian is saying that they lose 17 billion a year
Also, this a quote from Trump talking to his donors.. Not the WaPo reporting it as fact.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:04 am to Yak
Well good, we're finally winning one.
Do you think Mueller will bring charges for this?
Do you think Mueller will bring charges for this?
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:05 am to More&Les
quote:
Well good, we're finally winning one.
Do you think Mueller will bring charges for this?
In other words:
Oh, I was wrong.
pr0g filth, amirite?!
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:11 am to tigerinDC09
quote:frick's sake, man, why do you try?
You can tell a lie as many times as you want, won't make it true. Here it is again from the Office of the US Trade Representative, which sits under, the Executive office of the President. U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $627.8 billion in 2016. Exports were $320.1 billion; imports were $307.6 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $12.5 billion in 2016. LINK
He plainly said that he went off the cuff in claiming a deficit. He later tweeted that he was accidentally right (though he's wrong) and now you have people backing him up when the figures are easily available. Of course they'll weasel out by saying "he only meant our trade in goods so he was right."
Classic Trumpism.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:13 am to LSURussian
quote:thats not even close to what he was saying. you're either being willfully ignorant or you just simply are ignorant. not sure which is worse.
To be clear, are you saying Obama never lied to us while he was President? Hypocrite.....
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:26 am to MastrShake
Oh, look......another one has showed up! 
Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:41 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:
you really need to start reading threads
quote:We have an $18 billion deficit with Canada.
U.S. Trade Deficit by Country, with Current Statistics and Issues
1. China - $636 billion traded with a $375 billion deficit.
2. Canada - $582 billion traded with an $18 billion deficit.
3. Mexico - $557 billion traded with a $71 billion deficit.
4. Japan - $204 billion traded with a $69 billion deficit.
5. Germany - $171 billion traded with a $65 billion deficit.
LINK
If Trump's "trade representative" actually said otherwise, he should review his comments.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:27 pm to Yak
quote:
In other words:
Oh, I was wrong.
pr0g filth, amirite?!
Yes, it appears I was wrong in this instance are you saying that makes me prog filth or alleging that I call others prog filth?
Either way, you are wrong.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:34 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
The only way you're still confused is if you haven't read the thread.
Which I can see you didn't, as we had a decisive discussion on whether the trade deficit includes both goods and services. Yet the numbers you just posted only include goods.
quote:
We have an $18 billion deficit with Canada. If Trump's "trade representative" actually said otherwise, he should review his comments.
Meanwhile, other federal sources confirm USTR's stated trade surplus with CA (two of them, BEA and Census, linked by me ITT).
Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:52 pm to tigerinDC09
It's just ridiculous. @real has been passionate about this topic for 30 years, yet he doesn't have the facts at his fingertips concerning Canada(!), and so he tries (and fails) to bullshite his way through a meeting with Trudeau. It's like he's living that dream where you show up for a test but forgot to go to class the whole semester. Maybe that's how you bankrupt multiple casinos(!) and underperform index funds for 30 years.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 3:11 pm to BBONDS25
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ETA. You misread or don't understand what happened. It is literally nothing. He said he thought Justin was wrong so he asked someone to check. And when you include timber....trump was right. This kind of fake news is so commonplace. You guys are pathetic.
You can't read, of you get easily confused by what you read.
The U.S. had a goods and services surplus of $12.5 billion in 2016. From the report:
quote:
The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $12.5 billion in 2016.
Canada is currently our 2nd largest goods trading partner with $544.0 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2016. Goods exports totaled $266.0 billion; goods imports totaled $278.1 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Canada was $12.1 billion in 2016.
Trade in services with Canada (exports and imports) totaled an estimated $ 83.7 billion in 2016. Services exports were $54.2 billion; services imports were $ 26.9 billion. The U.S. services trade surplus with Canada was $24.6 billion in 2016.
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