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re: Immigration Policies in other countries...
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:12 am to AnarchySupporter
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:12 am to AnarchySupporter
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Of course what you forget is that the Old Testament did come before Jesus Christ
You serious Clark? Stick to political stuff you won't be able to get an inch here with me, I know this stuff extremely well. I know modern day christians have a completely different perception of what the Bible means and how it relates to today's world. The human race becoming more civilized had to start changing how they took religion and applied it to their lives. And it's commendable.
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Muslims on the other hand, unlike Christians, literally do take the Koran word for word and literally. Can you not see the difference?
Whooaaaa I certainly think Islam is way worse and has a major fundamental flaw in it. I have way less tolerance for them and would let them know how wrong they are at a moments chance, I just don't come across many too often so it always sounds like I'm berating Christianity, when in actuality I think by today's interpretation, it's a great moral guiding beacon. I'm just not deluded on what the words in the book actually say.
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:13 am to drizztiger
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I know some Christians that believe in creationism.
Lol. So what?
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Catholic priests did worse by systematically preying on innocent children for sexual gratification and the Church protected them.
Truth on the boy rapes, but is it "worse"? Ehhh not a good thing to debate.
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Seriously, if I'm going to be known as a religion, I'd rather be a zealot terrorist than a fricker of 8 year old boys.
Ehh...an unfortunate comparison, doesn't help your argument.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 1:14 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:13 am to AnarchySupporter
quote:You're so stupid.
Just making stuff up now I see. Again, as your atheist friends like to point out, freedom of religion ends when it interferes with my freedoms. A Muslim can tell me they hate me all they want, that's freedom of speech and freedom of religion, but they do not have the right to act on it like Sharia law would like them to.
You have laws to prevent and punish criminal acts. You have unequivocal liberties built into the foundation of your nation.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:14 am to drizztiger
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Catholic priests did worse by systematically preying on innocent children for sexual gratification and the Church protected them.
Seriously, if I'm going to be known as a religion, I'd rather be a zealot terrorist than a fricker of 8 year old boys.
I knew this would come up, it's your go to thing against Catholics. What those priest did were terrible, but I can guarantee you the percentage of Catholics who are pedos is far less than the percentage of Muslims who are terrorists. Most Catholics were appaled by these priests, far moreso than the amount of Muslims who are appaled by terrorist attacks. I would like to remind you that most priests are great, I myself was a choir boy in school.
And sorry but while being a pedo IMO should be punished by death, nothing is worse than taking the life of another person, nothing.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:14 am to tiggerthetooth
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It's very low...
That wasn't your original contention, but thanks for clarifying.
If it's such a low number, why is the anarchist chewing his fingers off because Florida is being overrun? Can't play both sides here.
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How do these uneducated poor survive in this country? Poor adults with no education, no job skills, etc. How do they make a living?
Varies. Labor, service industry, etc. There are plenty of jobs that don't require a college degree or specialized skills. These are the jobs our own poorly educated population complains about immigrants "stealing." Perhaps we should focus some of that energy on the large population of leeches born here, instead of using it all up on "very low" numbers of immigrants.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:16 am to bhtigerfan
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bhtigerfan
Sorry, who are you again?
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:18 am to drizztiger
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You have laws to prevent and punish criminal acts. You have unequivocal liberties built into the foundation of your nation.
You are dense buddy, yes they have liberties but only until it impacts someone else. Just like yes you have the right to protest but that right ends when you start destroying my property. All liberties do have their limits.
But I would like to put on record that according to drizztiger a Muslim has a right to kill me because I disagree with Islam.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:18 am to AnarchySupporter
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I knew this would come up, it's your go to thing against Catholics.
Meh, I mean to be fair the systematic rape and torture and maltreatment of children is pretty frickin bad. You should probably expect and accept that it's a talking point that should and will be brought up whenever arguing the controversies in religion.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:19 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:This dude is all over that map, so it is what it is.
Ehh...an unfortunate comparison, doesn't help your argument.
It's like he was born yesterday and Momma told him about Jesus and world sucks now.
Every religion has some dark arse shite to it. My contention is only you can't pick "right now" which is good, bad, etc from our constitutional framework. Do that now and X amount of years from now... no, simply no.
America is America because of the Constitution and Capitalism.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:20 am to AnarchySupporter
quote:I am a Catholic.
I knew this would come up, it's your go to thing against Catholics.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:21 am to olddawg26
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Meh, I mean to be fair the systematic rape and torture and maltreatment of children is pretty frickin bad. You should probably expect and accept that it's a talking point that should and will be brought up whenever arguing the controversies in religion.
And how many Catholics defended it? I never knew one, all Catholics were far more appaled by it than even the general public. We hated that those priests had falsely represented our religion. I myself was a choir boy in school and it was an experience I still treasure today.
Catholics, parishioners, priests and officials alike, everyone I met, was enraged by the scandal. There was no secret support of it like there is for terrorism within Islam.
Maybe if Muslims came out as soundly against terrorism as Catholics came out against the child abuse scandal more people would respect them.
And again, while the rape and torture of children is terrible and IMO should be punishable by death, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, beats taking the life of another person simply because they don't follow your religion.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 1:22 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:23 am to olddawg26
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Meh, I mean to be fair the systematic rape and torture and maltreatment of children is pretty frickin bad.
Thing is, in one religion bad. The other, well, it's in their book.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:24 am to AnarchySupporter
quote:How have I infringed on someone else's liberties by having my own religion?
yes they have liberties but only until it impacts someone else
quote:Yes, this is exactly what I've said.
according to drizztiger a Muslim has a right to kill me because I disagree with Islam.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:24 am to AnarchySupporter
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And how many Catholics defended it?
Defended it? Nah, they just systematically covered it up for decades.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:26 am to drizztiger
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yes they have liberties but only until it impacts someone else
How have I infringed on someone else's liberties by having my own religion?
You're constantly changing your comparisons. You're not being honest or consistent. Yes you have the right to practice your religion, you are infringing on no else having your own religion.
I would saying hurting or killing someone because they don't follow your religion is infringing on someone else's liberties. Would you not agree with that?
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:26 am to AnarchySupporter
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And how many Catholics defended it?
How many covered it up?
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Maybe if Muslims came out as soundly against terrorism as Catholics came out against the child abuse scandal more people would respect them.
It's probably more than you think, but way less than it should be I'll agree with that.
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And again, while the rape and torture of children is terrible and IMO should be punishable by death, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, beats taking the life of another person simply because they don't follow your religion.
I think we're both on the same page with Islam here, Im in no way defending it.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:29 am to AnarchySupporter
quote:You are completely clueless.
There was no secret support of it like there is for terrorism within Islam.
There was a systematic approach to relocate priests within the Church to new parishes with full awareness of the child frickings.
You apparently have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:29 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Defended it? Nah, they just systematically covered it up for decades.
Yes and it was covered up from us Catholics as well as most priests. You don't think I had some long hard thoughts about if I would continue as a Catholic? I left the Catholic church for awhile over it, I came back several years later after I realized my relationship with God needed it. Our priest and our congregation had some hard sermons about what had happened and that he really wanted all of us (himself included) to go out and really repair our relationship with the greater community, and they did.
Have any Muslims ever seriously considered leaving due to the actions of their terrorists and Imans? I doubt it. Have any of their Imams had hard discussions with their congregations on how they can fight terrorism and help their image in the community. I doubt it.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 1:33 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:29 am to olddawg26
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How many covered it up?
A very small amount.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:32 am to drizztiger
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You are completely clueless.
There was a systematic approach to relocate priests within the Church to new parishes with full awareness of the child frickings.
You apparently have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm done talking about this. Again the vast majority of priests and almost all regular Catholics did not know what was going on and were even more horrified than the regular public.
I know what you are doing, trying to put us on defense instead of focusing on Muslims. Not going to work with me, again how many Muslims will go against their terrorist colleagues?
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