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re: I’m not a fan of federal agents trying to step in and crack down in these cities
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:54 pm to wmr
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:54 pm to wmr
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by wmr
Being Libertarian was something in fashion 12-13 years ago. I can't believe adults still believe it's some sort of viable position. It's the Agnosticism of politics
I still tend to lean libertarian but libertarian isn't being an anarchist. Too many confuse the two
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:54 pm to DavidTheGnome
Friggin beta gaybo
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:55 pm to DavidTheGnome
So...Gnome,
Your answer is to just let these cities self-destruct and burn to the ground??
I'm listening...
Your answer is to just let these cities self-destruct and burn to the ground??
I'm listening...
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:55 pm to JakeRStephenes
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You must be some good parent - don't reprimand the children, it will only escalate things.
I’m not much of a fan of the federal government stepping in to reprimand states, when they express the clear desire for them not to be there. The Fed gov is not our parent and that’s a dangerous line of thinking if you believe so. We the people run the federal government not the other way around.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:55 pm to DavidTheGnome
If it’s your blood, sweat, and tears being destroyed, you would have a different take.
As a conservative, I get your stance. But, and this is the major point, the local governments are not protecting the citizens. It’s time the federal government comes in.
It was correct for Grant to intervene when mobs were attacking blacks and it is correct for Trump to intervene as well.
As a conservative, I get your stance. But, and this is the major point, the local governments are not protecting the citizens. It’s time the federal government comes in.
It was correct for Grant to intervene when mobs were attacking blacks and it is correct for Trump to intervene as well.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:55 pm to BigB123
I will add that one aspect of this is the behaviors we encourage. While right now the socialist mayors of America are rejecting federal aid, I could also see this flipping the other way. After cities defund the police and crime runs rampant, they may then ask for federal aid to address the very problems they create. Republicans should be very wary of setting a precedent that we will aid and abet that behavior.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:55 pm to DavidTheGnome
I guess you also didn't like when the troops rescued New Orleans after Katrina either? STFU
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:56 pm to DavidTheGnome
Earlier I thought it was a trap and it probably still is, but at some point innocent citizens need some protection from violent mobs destroying anything and everything in their path. Somebody has to restore law and order sooner or later, Dem Mayors won’t do it. It’s a shame that it has come to this. It’s ridiculous that the media is putting forth this Trump is “testing the waters” theory, they are so full of shite.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:58 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I’m not much of a fan of the federal government stepping in to reprimand states, when they express the clear desire for them not to be there
To repeat
I HIGHLY DOUBT your stated Position will hold up under scrutiny. Local authorities can't basically turn loose violence mobs that they basically agree with and leave the rest of their citizens to face the mob. Even worse. Threaten the people being targeted by the mob with legal action if they do anything
I highly doubt that if we tested your stated principle using other scenarios that it would hold up
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:58 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I’m not much of a fan of the federal government stepping in to reprimand states, when they express the clear desire for them not to be there
Hmmmm, you were against the feds enforcing integration?
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:58 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I’m not a fan of federal agents trying to step in and crack down in these cities
They're protecting federal property.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:59 pm to DavidTheGnome
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reprimand states, when they express the clear desire for them not to be there.
Who is "they"? There are US citizens in these areas being terrorized. They deserve assistance that is being actively denied. These mayors have placed innocent civilians in the path of violent mobs.
The innocent civilians should have a voice, that you deny them by just saying "ho hum, the democrat mayor said it was all hunky dory, Feds gotta go away".
That is an asinine position to take.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:59 pm to DavidTheGnome
Gnome - you do realize there is federal property in the states. Duh.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:59 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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As a conservative, I get your stance. But, and this is the major point, the local governments are not protecting the citizens. It’s time the federal government comes in.
Even if it was that time, & I don’t think it is, how can it be argued that the federal government is approaching this in a matter consistent with the Freedoms & rights citizens of the US are entitled to.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 11:00 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I prefer not to have federal agents out there patrolling the streets no matter how much they seem to be "needed"
And I prefer the end result, order. If the Russians or Chinese did us a favor and put down these assholes, I would be content.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 11:00 pm to ShortyRob
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You're being absurd. The local governments are effectively siding with a violent mob that is targeting a subset of citizens that they are abandoning to the mob
You wouldn't take this position if a local government was allowing roving gangs to attack anybody they perceived as supporting gay rights.
I wouldn’t? It seems you’re inventing my position for me. I can play that game too, you’d be screaming bloody murder if it were Barry that sent in officers from the federal government to a Republican state in defiance from what the governor said.
Like I said I am an advocate of small government. Period.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 11:00 pm to GumboPot
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Sorry, federal agents have always been in our cities. Always.
Yeah, can't believe some people don't know that.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 11:01 pm to wmr
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Being Libertarian was something in fashion 12-13 years ago. I can't believe adults still believe it's some sort of viable position. It's the Agnosticism of politics.
The last sentence shows me that you have no idea what libertarians believe.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 11:02 pm to OleWar
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And I prefer the end result,
Ends justify the means huh?
Let’s see if you feel that way next time the party you oppose is in the White House
Posted on 7/23/20 at 11:03 pm to SDVTiger
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First you cry that Trump isnt doing anything
Did I?
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