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re: I'm interested in the opinions of fellow conservatives on the Chauvin jury findings

Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154597 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:38 pm to
I called AMS thing a homosexual and a commie for not believing in science.

I used language that CRT people would object too.

I suspect that chicken is concerned about his site being targeted by the commie cancel crew and I respect his decision to protect his business.

I’m just a guest here.

My apologies to chicken but never to the CRT/AMS crew.
Posted by jimmarley
Southeast
Member since May 2020
1594 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:42 pm to
The jury was completely intimidated.
I think manslaughter chg was appropriate. The others? Nah
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

roadGator


you are getting hyperemotional. Lashing out with whatever feeble insults your poor little imagination can come up with to soothe yourself. pretty embarrassing behavior but honestly I can't expect anything better from you.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154597 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:45 pm to
Emotional? You people are so stupid.

I’d say the same thing to you in person and laugh while your little feeling got hurt.

You people are funny.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:47 pm to
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I’d say the same thing to you in person and laugh while your little feeling got hurt.



if you said the same thing to me in person, I would walk away because there is no point interacting with someone so mentally unstable. feel sorry for you man.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154597 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

you said the same thing to me in person, I would walk away


I know.

You’d feel sorry for me while I laugh at you slinking away. I’d just go back to talking with my friends about boats and golf, enjoy my IPA and never think of you again. You feeling sorry for me is meaningless. Just know that.



Commie shite bird.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 5:52 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162695 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:55 pm to
I agree with all you said. I even posted it in the prediction thread.

Floyd put himself on the ground in that position; by freaking out screaming he was claustrophobic to get in the cage of the police cruiser. I call BS because he had no problems riding in that little car he arrived in.

The only thing nagging at me with this is a juror that flapped her mouth, or some story? Said that Chauvin was too busy dealing with a mob screaming at him to assess Floyd or that he died.

But...she said another officer said hey let's turn him on his side, and that Chauvin was in charge and ignored him...

Also the last minute photos of Floyd showed unnecessary brutality.

So I am back to your opinion, manslaughter.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:09 pm to
murder 2 in Minnesota - requires that a felony leads to the death.


quote:

Also the last minute photos of Floyd showed unnecessary brutality.


you agree there was felony assault.

quote:

So I am back to your opinion, manslaughter.


you agree that DC actions led to GF's death.



You agreed there was manslaughter, you agreed there was unnecessary brutality. that is murder 2 in Minnesota.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23227 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:19 pm to
Bad cop + 5-time jailbird/drug addict resisting arrest =
one dead and one in jail
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94757 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:20 pm to
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he showed an utter disregard for Floyd's life by not getting him medical attention


Chauvin showed up relatively late to the encounter (relative to the arresting officer) and EMS had already been called.

I'm not defending 100% of his (or the other officers' conduct), but just trying to keep the facts straight.

Floyd did NOT want to get in the vehicle and they complied with his request to "just" lie down. He continued to resist even after he was allowed to "just" lie down. He died due to a combination of factors, most of which he had 100% control over.

Do I think Chauvin is guilty of manslaughter? Maybe. Do I think that taking all the factors together that there is some reasonable doubt? Frankly, I think that is probably more likely, however slightly.

And it doesn't (or shouldn't) take much more than that to acquit. It doesn't mean he's a good person and did right by George Floyd. Doesn't even mean I think he should continue being a cop.

But, the totality of the circumstances are far more in favor of "bad conduct short of a crime" than it is "murder and he should go away for the rest of his life."

Just my $0.02, but I did not sit in the jury, so I can't say definitively. What I am far more certain of than Chauvin's guilt of any crime (at least a felony) is that the jury was swayed by factors outside of the evidence presented and that isn't the way it is supposed to be in the United States.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162695 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:22 pm to
It was skin torn and his knuckles torn. Don't get all weird. It could have been caused by Floyd when the chick video taping suddenly wasn't videotaping...

When Floyd was thrashing to not get in the cruiser. Floyd was a big man he could have easily got banged up thrashing.

Manslaughter is pushing it because the coroner testified he did not die from a knee to his shoulder blade.

Chauvin is therefore guilty of not realizing he was dying. Prisoners cry wolf all the time. So manslaughter is pushing it.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:23 pm to
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Manslaughter is pushing it because the coroner testified he did not die from a knee to his shoulder blade.



he did testify he believed it was homicide.

quote:

Chauvin is therefore guilty of not realizing he was dying.


irrelevant for the charges he was convicted of.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154597 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:32 pm to
I do have an honest question. This thread was for conservatives.

Why did you respond?

Get mad if you want to.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

I do have an honest question. This thread was for conservatives.

Why did you respond?

Get mad if you want to.


just because you pretend I am a commie CRT blue hair individual does not make it so.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154597 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:43 pm to
I don’t think you have blue hair.

Pink or green

There’s no way you are conservative. I mean that’s clear.

Eta:

How many times did you vote for kamala and dementia Joe?
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 7:46 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:52 pm to
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There’s no way you are conservative. I mean that’s clear.

Eta:

How many times did you vote for kamala and dementia Joe?




trump voter dog. lmao im for holding criminals accountable, which seems to have triggered you so hard you are stuck in your make-believe world. Not a good look for ya
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6634 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:55 pm to
No idea the facts of the case, didn’t follow.

That said, manslaughter seems appropriate vs murder.

Still, what I do know is a mistrial seems appropriate with all the outside forces involved
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:57 pm to
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Was he murdered? Of course not. But a serious crime was committed by Chauvin.


You should look up the definition of felony murder...
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154597 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:59 pm to
Trump voter?

That is funny.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162695 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:59 pm to
You live in a filthy New York City where I have to deal with rude vile yankees escaping the insanity. DeBlasio & Cuomo are hated; but ya'll are too deep in the communism to do anything but frick up other States by moving out.
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