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re: I'm a Republican that wants to vote for Trump but.........

Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:58 am to
Posted by Motownsix
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Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:58 am to
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In terms of the oil field, someone convince me. during trumps term, it was the worst downturn in the oilfield's history. a ton of companies filed bankruptcy and some no longer exist because of it. today....we are busier than we've ever been.


It was because of Trump policies that the oil industry was decimated. He bragged in his speech last night that he achieved energy independence and Biden somehow let it disappear while the opposite is actually true.
At some point people have to realize the man just makes up stories.
But to think this boom won’t have a bust directly contradicts conventional wisdom. IMO gas prices have to propped up high enough to protect US companies from cheap oil flooding the market. Trump was unwilling to do that.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:00 am to
President Trump signed all of those oil permits, but companies pumped oil out of capped wells? Sorry, that doesn't pass the sniff test. Have a good day.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:00 am to
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Hmmm I wonder what fricking what happened during Trump's term that could have had an impact on that


600+ companies filed for bankruptcy prior to 2020. This wasn’t Covid, this was bad energy policy. Covid certainly put the nail in the coffin for some companies but that damage was done way before that.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73294 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:03 am to
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I'm a Republican


BS. you've always defended democrats here in our past run-ins.

you are fooling nobody. liar.

obama fricked me when he was in and so has biden so far with his GREEN NEW DEAL BS. funny my worst times were under YOUR beloved democrats in O&G.

quote:

during trumps term


we were blowing and going. not sure WTF you were doing. do you have any clue what de-regulation does? DO you know he was the first to get ANWR open? before your boy biden closed it? Your boy biden and obama also shutdown keystone XL.

quote:

we are busier than we've ever been.




riiiiiiiiiiiight. complete and utter BS. just because you may be working right now like me on overseas projects does mean this is this aboom! LOL. delusional. your boy biden wants fossil fuels gone. and you vote for this shite.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:03 am to
quote:

In terms of the oil field, someone convince me.



Biden's shitty policies are a big help to oil prices and existing plays in the short term. It's undeniable. But what about getting work in New Mexico over the next 10 years? Those jobs matter too.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:04 am to
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73294 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:05 am to
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2016-17 was the worst layoff period in the patch that i've ever seen. truth.




nope keep lying

we were blowing and going then. we had work back then in GOM (which we don't now), alaska and nova scotia and south america.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 9:11 am
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:05 am to
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600+ companies filed for bankruptcy prior to 2020. This wasn’t Covid, this was bad energy policy. Covid certainly put the nail in the coffin for some companies but that damage was done way before that.



Putting the fossil fuel industry out of business sounds like a great policy improvement. You should vote for biden again or whatever replacement puppet they want to install.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:07 am to
quote:

It was because of Trump policies that the oil industry was decimated.


What the frick are you talking about. Decimated? In 2017 we produced 8500 BBL/D/1K and before covid we were up to almost 13000. You are an absolute moron.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73294 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Biden's shitty policies are a big help to oil prices and existing plays in the short term. It's undeniable


yup but he lives in a bubble. he is not looking at GOM plays, shale plays public and private, or overseas plays, nor is he looking at downstream, midstream and upstream.

hey let's shut down some midstream stuff and cancel leases on drilling on public lands here. of course it will drive up prices if you cannot drill here like before...because people are saying frick the green new deal and drilling off the coast of africa and south america. most all my stuff is in south america right now. not the GOM.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 9:16 am
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:10 am to
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nope keep lying

we were blowing and going then


bullshite. everyone in the gulf was in survival mode.

Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
22275 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:13 am to
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600+ companies filed for bankruptcy prior to 2020. This wasn’t Covid, this was bad energy policy.

Those bad energy policies came before Trump was in office, and the downturn was already being predicted at the end of the Obama administration.

quote:

But 2015 was the year that job gains in the energy sector came to a screeching halt as rock-bottom oil prices triggered layoffs of more than 258,000 workers globally, according to a comprehensive analysis by industry consultant Graves & Co. And the energy business is poised to endure a fresh round of job cuts and bankruptcies in early 2016, analysts say.

The number of active oil and gas rigs in the U.S. fell 61% to 698 as of Dec. 31, compared to a year earlier, according to Baker Hughes Rig Counts.


December 2015 report and 2016 outlook
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73294 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:14 am to
quote:

everyone in the gulf was in survival mode.




wrong. but they are now. if not done thanks to your boy biden. see my posts above. you are making my points for me.
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:16 am to
quote:

wrong. but they are now. if not done thanks to your boy biden. see my posts above. you are making my points for me.



what sector do you work in? we are busy as shite.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27972 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:23 am to
quote:

the entire car is made of oil. the 5-6 quarts that the engine needs is simply peanuts

the car parts are made once

the quarts are used on an irregular basis depending on the owner

yet the oil industry product that is used daily by hundreds of millions of govt, private, research, non-profit, corporate, and public vehicles, you failed to mention

Odd
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18758 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:26 am to
You mean when Covid hit and the world over reacted and stopped driving for two or more months and demand went to near zero?

That’s a micro not macro issue.
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:28 am to
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You mean when Covid hit


no. before covid.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:33 am to
It was way worse once Covid came in. The bankruptcies had been building due to companies over leveraging themselves to attack shale drilling.

It wasn’t a Trump issue it was the typical oil companies run like hell to the peak and the plunge off.

Maybe this report - Haynes Boone Oil Company Bankrupcies

Will shed some light on it for you. The issue was industry driven not politically driven.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:41 am to
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Might it have been an issue with the company you worked for? Because, there was a TON of drilling going on to get us to the point of being energy independent and exporting more oil than we used


Not while Trump was president. Name one domestic energy industry stock that did well while trump was president? Sandridge went bankrupt in 2018, Chesapeake in 2019, Noble, Devon, and Gulfport 2018?
If you bought Exxon in 2016 it was worth half the price in 2020.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11786 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 9:54 am to
You were doing good until BUT. They way some people think blows my ming
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