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re: Illinois seeks to pass most RADICAL abortion bill in the country
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:29 pm to oogabooga68
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:29 pm to oogabooga68
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I'm getting ready to start printing those "Charlottesville Was a Good Start" T-Shirts.....
Your confederate flag shirt says that already.
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:29 pm to Dawgirl
By now, there's no way that this rash of insane abortion laws being passed by the various states can be a random coincidence. Planned Parenthood is behind this, and it's obvious that this is one of the top items on their agenda.
Are they doing all this NOW because they're afraid that one more conservative justice might be enough to overturn Roe V. Wade? Wouldn't a Supreme Court ruling supersede a legislative enactment from a state?
Perhaps they want to force a challenge NOW, so that a Supreme Court which still includes Ruth Bader Ginsburg could rule on it?
Are they doing all this NOW because they're afraid that one more conservative justice might be enough to overturn Roe V. Wade? Wouldn't a Supreme Court ruling supersede a legislative enactment from a state?
Perhaps they want to force a challenge NOW, so that a Supreme Court which still includes Ruth Bader Ginsburg could rule on it?
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:31 pm to Dawgirl
Is foeticide a law on their books?
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:31 pm to Dawgirl
It is like leftists WANT roe v wade to be overturned. Why the hell would you start doing all this??
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:32 pm to BugAC
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Is this an attempt to get the vote on Roe v. Wade again to get women on the side of the democrats to say, "see, Republicans are trying to ban Roe v. Wade abortion"
Abortion is not an issue the remotely cracks my top 10 when choosing a candidate to vote for. However, I would not vote for anyone who backed these bills.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:36 pm to BugAC
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Can someone tell me what the goal of this is?
Dems have lost issues to run on against the GoP.
Spending.
Gays.
Nukes.
Race(but they keep trying).
Unions.
Aids.
AGW.
Abortion.
The religious right(They want a Falwell back)
They want to frame the right as religious zealots again oh so bad and are trying to create a crisis.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:37 pm to LSUconvert
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Your confederate flag shirt says that already.
Nah, boy, it actually says "If this trailers' rockin', don't bother knockin'....?
BTW, the Charlottesville shirt has a fat girl and a sports car on it.....what size do you wear?
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:39 pm to ProjectP2294
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How has this all of a sudden become such a big push by the states?
The problem is, it's going to unite the anti abortion activists.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:40 pm to Bulldogblitz
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run as far left as possible, knowing that "in the middle" is where it will end up.... "in the middle" being ignorant too.
This is exactly what they are doing. The long game - and they have it perfected.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:41 pm to Dawgirl
I wouldn't worry too much about this dude. I'm as pro choice as anyone and even I'm not a fan of a lot of this. I have no idea what "Eliminate all restrictions on where abortions are performed" and "allows non-physicians to perform surgical and medical abortions" is supposed to mean, on where the line is for that, for example, but "Legalize abortions up until the moment of birth" as a blanket rule is too far by a mile. If I thought a 2 month old fetus was actually a person I wouldn't be pro choice, I have no desire to hurt anyone much less a child, but that's no longer a grey area at the moment of birth. There's no argument I can think of that says otherwise.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:46 pm to MastrShake
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I wouldn't worry too much about this dude.
Soooo.....basically one of the two major Political Parties in American supports infanticide and your reaction is "no worries, dude...."
Would you as dismissive if a Politician were in current year to propose a bill outlawing Homosexuality or Interracial marriage.
Would your response be "no worries, brah..." and let the Politician and their Party slide or would you attack them as backwards?
The Left have gone batzhit crazy and anyone still supporting their obvious barbarism in any form is a piece of dog shite.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:47 pm to Dawgirl
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It repeals laws that allow husbands to block their wives from aborting their child
How can any man support this Democrat party. They would not even let a father save the the life of his own child right up to the moment of birth! Sick!!
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:47 pm to MastrShake
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I have no idea what "Eliminate all restrictions on where abortions are performed" and "allows non-physicians to perform surgical and medical abortions" is supposed to mean
You know goddamn well what it means.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:48 pm to KCT
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Are they doing all this NOW because they're afraid that one more conservative justice might be enough to overturn Roe V. Wade? Wouldn't a Supreme Court ruling supersede a legislative enactment from a state?
Overturning Roe would have no effect on this or the Vermont bill.
Roe and Casey only set the maximum limit of governmental regulation. State are free to grant wider abortion abilities.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:55 pm to oogabooga68
quote:not at all. What Im saying is that the party won't support it. I'm a pro choice liberal and I'm telling you I don't support it.
Soooo.....basically one of the two major Political Parties in American supports infanticide and your reaction is "no worries, dude...."
People write insane bills all the time and they never go anywhere. This will be yet another.
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:59 pm to Dawgirl
Jesus Christ. This is sick.
And I love how they title this bill "The Reproductive Health Act." In very few circumstances is abortion a real healthcare issue. It's a voluntary procedure, so it's not a women's health or reproductive health issue anymore than hair plugs are a men's health issue, or face lifts are a women's health issue.
It's a voluntary procedure for convenience in most cases.
And I love how they title this bill "The Reproductive Health Act." In very few circumstances is abortion a real healthcare issue. It's a voluntary procedure, so it's not a women's health or reproductive health issue anymore than hair plugs are a men's health issue, or face lifts are a women's health issue.
It's a voluntary procedure for convenience in most cases.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:13 pm to CaptSpaulding
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You know goddamn well what it means.
Yes, we do. Back alley abortions
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:19 pm to Dawgirl
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Legalize abortions up until the moment of birth.
Think most Americans have an issue with this.
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Eliminate all restrictions on where abortions are performed.
Why was this a restriction in the first place? Do you really need to be in a hospital to have this done? The answer of course is NO. I can have a baby at home in the bed with a freaking midwife if I want to. This is an obvious attempt to restrict.
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Require all private health insurance policies to cover abortion (even churches and other religious organizations).
Against. Let the market figure this out. If people want this, they will buy it.
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The law also allows non-physicians to perform surgical and medical abortions.
Again, I can have a baby at home with a midwife. This is an attempt to restrict access.
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It repeals laws that allow husbands to block their wives from aborting their child,
Can husbands also choose to pay child support or not?
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eliminates requirements to investigate fetal or maternal deaths resulting from abortion
This seems strange
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:22 pm to KCT
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By now, there's no way that this rash of insane abortion laws being passed by the various states can be a random coincidence. Planned Parenthood is behind this, and it's obvious that this is one of the top items on their agenda.
Planned Parenthood Announces Multi-Million Dollar Plan to Protect and Expand Abortion Access In Face of Hostile Supreme Court
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:37 pm to Dawgirl
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It repeals laws that allow husbands to block their wives from aborting their child
How bout we go ahead and combine this with the wife getting none of the man's money during a divorce? It's only fair by this precedent.
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