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re: Illinois is mostly Red

Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:08 pm to
Trump won the popular vote.

Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:15 pm to
Respectfully, the population of Chicago metro area is 9.5 million. You have to subtract out suburbs are in Wisconsin and Indiana, so that might be reduced down to something closer to 7.5 million in Chicago area that resides in Illinois.

Rural Illinois is full of Red squares on your map that have less than 10,000 people in them.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:17 pm to
There are 9 million people in the Chicago area and about 3 million in the rest of the state. Do you know how math works?
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:26 pm to
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The entire UNITED STATES is red outside major urban areas.


FIFY
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:57 pm to
That’s what happens when one large metro runs the state.

I worry Georgia is heading this way due to Atlanta
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29716 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:01 pm to
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There are 9 million people in the Chicago area and about 3 million in the rest of the state. Do you know how math works?


Make this make sense Mensa man? The 13th is the worst case of gerrymandering in US history.



This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 5:03 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:11 pm to
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JB Pritzker’s gerrymander is the only thing keeping Democrats in power.



How exactly?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:12 pm to
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The entire Midwest is red outside major urban areas.



Yes, areas where people actually live tend to lean blue. Land doesn't vote.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25362 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:13 pm to
The entire country is like this in real life. Not internet and fake poll propaganda life
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 5:14 pm
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:16 pm to
The Midwest is conservative with a few exceptions.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29716 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:17 pm to
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Yes, areas where people actually live tend to lean blue. Land doesn't vote.


You are okay with the Illinois 13th district?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:19 pm to
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The Midwest is conservative with a few exceptions.



The Midwest is sparsely inhabited save for a few urban areas, which have pretty robust Democratic machines dating back to the early 20th century. Again, land doesn't vote.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:21 pm to
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The Midwest is sparsely inhabited save for a few urban areas, which have pretty robust Democratic machines dating back to the early 20th century. Again, land doesn't vote.


What about the 13th in Illinois?

You going to keep parroting talking points?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:21 pm to
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You are okay with the Illinois 13th district?



No. Gerrymandering is idiotic, regardless of what party does it, as it doesn't reflect the will of the people, which is often much more moderate as a whole than those relatively 'safe' districts allow.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29716 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:24 pm to
I agree. Its an arms race. One that Dems will lose if they keep pushing.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 5:25 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:27 pm to
It's also likely to continue the 'urban vs rural' divide and possibly even make it more extreme than it exists in reality. There should be no safe districts for either party.
Posted by BeesWax
Member since Mar 2025
695 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:37 pm to
The entire country is this way. We’ve known this for a long time.
Posted by Drew1964
Member since Nov 2024
255 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:44 pm to
That map is hilarious. I don’t know why we put up with these people. Supreme Court needs to step up.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8486 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 6:05 pm to
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What if we had made electoral for a state by county? I

If the electors were delegates by district vs winner take all, Romney wins ‘12.
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
1836 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 6:18 pm to
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There are 9 million people in the Chicago area and about 3 million in the rest of the state. Do you know how math works?


A better way to look: The 2024 vote for president, 54.37% D 43.47% R.

Popular vote 3,062,863 2,449,079. Not all the population is of voting age, or votes either.

That should mean of the 17 seats for IL, ~ 9~10 seats go D, and 7~8 R.

But it is 14/3.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 6:20 pm
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