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re: If you were performing at a high level
Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:52 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:52 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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It could also be zero communication.
"It can be terrible" isn't a great point.
This isn't terrible for anyone who is performing at the level they should be.
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:56 am to TDTOM
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Shouldn't their manager know when they are on leave? They should also have an out-of-office auto-reply
I would say most do. Does an out office response satisfy the requirement to respond? Can a supervisor respond on behalf of their employee that’s on leave? These are important questions that were NOT addressed in the very brief email and Elon’s viral tweet on the topic. The intent is fine but the execution leaves much to be desired. That is clear since there are already a few dept heads walking back the HR email.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:58 am to imjustafatkid
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This isn't terrible
Stay focused.
We're specifically talking about HR sending company-wide emails for what amount to a WAR, and attaching an "or else" deadline to it.
That isn't healthy behavior in any company.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:00 am to Odysseus32
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The higher up person in this scenario is asking solely so they can get rid of you.
So you better have a good answer, so they can keep you
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:05 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Stay focused.
We're specifically talking about HR sending company-wide emails for what amount to a WAR, and attaching an "or else" deadline to it.
That isn't healthy behavior in any company.
No, millions of employees being incapable of identifying what they do isn't healthy behavior. This is a symptom of that behavior.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:09 am to imjustafatkid
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No, millions of employees being incapable of identifying what they do
That's make-believe.
Regardless, you made the point and referenced project management. I'm highlighting how little you know about good project management, or management in general.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:09 am to imjustafatkid
Like I said earlier, the concern I had is what to do with the people who are on legitimate leave and/or generally unaware of the email for a legitimate reason like they are not scheduled to work over the weekend or on Monday. If this email comes out late last week instead of over the weekend with a little more guidance in regards to those on leave or away from the office for legitimate reasons then I don’t think there would be much to complain about.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:11 am to imjustafatkid
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We're specifically talking about HR sending company-wide emails for what amount to a WAR, and attaching an "or else" deadline to it.
That isn't healthy behavior in any company.
What if you inherited an entity that you know was unhealthy and you were looking to relieve yourself of unproductive uncaring workers?
This is precisely what you would do to smoke the loafers out!
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:12 am to STEVED00
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Like I said earlier, the concern I had is what to do with the people who are on legitimate leave and/or generally unaware of the email for a legitimate reason like they are not scheduled to work over the weekend or on Monday. If this email comes out late last week instead of over the weekend with a little more guidance in regards to those on leave or away from the office for legitimate reasons then I don’t think there would be much to complain about.
If your job depended on it, you would log into your email and respond
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:13 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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That isn't healthy behavior in any company.
It’s necessary when trying to fix a diseased company.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:14 am to djsdawg
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It’s necessary when trying to fix a diseased company.
Something is necessary. This isn’t it.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:15 am to djsdawg
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It’s necessary when trying to fix a diseased company.
Especially ones who have been working from home for years.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:23 am to djsdawg
I get it. It’s an easy task. The timing to respond with little to no guidance on expectations and acceptable reasons to be late is the concern.
Elon has tweeted this essentially was DOGE convinced that there are “phantom” employees who aren’t actually working except on paper but get a paycheck.
Elon has tweeted this essentially was DOGE convinced that there are “phantom” employees who aren’t actually working except on paper but get a paycheck.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You would make a terrible manager. Your limit is worker drone.
Your insecurity is palpable. When I first started posting all those years ago as an insecure 20 year old, I’m sure I did care if random posters thought I was whatever. My identity isn’t based on internet bullies thinking I’m cool anymore.
The last thing I want is a job that encroaches on my quality is life. I’ve had those before and the prize was more stress and headaches. I have never once thought “man, I really wish I would have spent more time answering work emails last weekend.” You can have it.
Heck, I don’t even keep the ringer to my office phone on 90% of the time but all my clients have my personal cell phone number. I do respond to them when they text me outside of business hours but that’s very rare.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:38 am to 4cubbies
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Your insecurity is palpable.
I'm not the one hiding at home avoiding responsibility like you.
When given responsibility, I respond line an adult, not like you do.
Its easy to tell youre not fit for management.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:03 am to 4cubbies
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Is this type of practice typical in your line of work?
Yes
I was in sales and every Friday had to send a five minute report about what I did for the last week and what I had planned for the next week
It was sent directly to the owner of the company
Skipping over my director of sales and my general manager
I hated doing it but began to realize it was very useful
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:07 am to Rohan Gravy
When I started out and worked for someone else I had to email them my activity each week. Now I work for myself and do whatever I want.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:13 am to Jrv2damac
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And now all the sudden, everyone in
the private sector everywhere is a hard charging worker bee worth their salt
simply because they’re not government.
Private sector employees are not being paid by taxpayers.
Huuuuuge difference
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:17 am to Rohan Gravy
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Private sector employees are not being paid by taxpayers.
Elon Musk has benefited from $20 billion in government contracts. Why doesn’t that count?
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 11:18 am
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm not the one hiding at home.
Going home after work is “hiding at home?” Interesting take.
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avoiding responsibility like you.
I’m at home taking care of my sick infant on a Sunday. Specifically what responsibility am I avoiding?
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Its easy to tell youre not fit for management.
You keep repeating this like it means something.
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