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re: If you voted against Clinton instead of for Trump

Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101322 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:43 pm to
I'm not quite sure what you're asking exactly. I will just add, I can't quite think of a single scenario whereby I wouldn't vote AGAINST Hillary Clinton in any election in which she's running and in which I can vote.
Posted by Ripley
Member since Aug 2016
4524 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:45 pm to
At the time, I voted for Trump because I thought he was "the lesser of two evils". Agreed with everything he said but ironically didn't know how his brashness would go over politically in order to get the things he wanted done.

My mind had been so conditioned to thinking things had to be done the same old diplomatic and "political" way but boy, was I wrong. His brashness and fighting-back is now my favorite trait of his.

What a fricking awakening HE has been for me. I always thought I had an idea of the corruption in our government but it turns out I wasn't even in the ball park.

What a clear difference there is when you don't have a career politician in office. I mean WOW. It has shined a massive, bright light on an infestation.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23160 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:46 pm to
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was Ted Cruz all the way, but I honestly believe Trump has been more conservative, and accomplished more than Cruz would have


It's an interesting point. I don't think trump is a ideologically conservative as Cruz, but I don't know if Cruz could withstand the liberal sky screaming from all angles. Trump just laughs and attacks more and more.

It maybe something to consider in the future, the lesser conservative with thicker skin may govern more conservatively than the more ideologically pure conservative with some degree of sensitivity for progressives.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54203 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:47 pm to
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I'm not quite sure what you're asking exactly.


Some people voted against Clinton but not necessarily for Trump. I voted for Trump, not against Clinton. Just wondering about the voters of the first option. Would your vote now still be against Clinton or for Trump?

That's the best I can do.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101322 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:47 pm to
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I do think we’d have bigger tax cuts and Obamacare would be completely done with Cruz.


I voted for Cruz in my primary. I'm still basically convinced he wanted/wants to do those things. I'm not sure, however, how he gets this Congress on board for those if he's in the place of Trump at this point in time.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101322 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:48 pm to
I still hate Clinton more than I like Trump. I generally like Trump so far, though.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:48 pm to
Both suck

Trump is as bad as I expected.

While she is corrupt and stupid, he's venal and in over his head. "I will hire the best people" to deal with our problems.. And irl, he brought in a team of duds.

Bernie was the better choice.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24600 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:49 pm to
I voted for Trump because I wanted someone who could not be bought by lobbyist and the mafia.
Posted by Lsudx256
DFW
Member since Mar 2016
2911 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:49 pm to
I voted against Hillary in the 2016 election. Knowing what I know now, I would campaign for Trump.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:51 pm to
Instead you got o and g and coal lobbyists and Russians.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Bernie was the better choice.


Yeah, socialism is the best ever. It’s always worked all the time.

quote:

he's venal and in over his head. "I will hire the best people" to deal with our problems.. And irl, he brought in a team of duds.


Tell me, how has he shown that he’s in over his head?
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8529 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:54 pm to
I voted against both Trump and Hillary. And I'd do it again.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:55 pm to
I am a lifetime libertarian GOP voter in a state so-red that my unborn grandchildren will not need to worry about statewide Dem officeholders (OK, maybe a BIT of exaggeration). In 2016, my loathing of Trump was exceeded only by my loathing of HRC, but I would have voted Trump if Texas had been remotely-close. In the real world, I could safely vote LPA, which I did for the first time in my life.

Today, I would do exactly the same, except I might be SLIGHTLY less nauseated voting for Trump, if necessary.

I understand that Trumpettes love the guy, but from a policy perspective I don’t see him doing much that any GOP candidate would not have done. Policy-wise, he just isn’t that special, and he is still a disgusting human being.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 12:59 pm
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:55 pm to
Looking for some affirmations? You are in the right place.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:58 pm to
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It's an interesting point. I don't think trump is a ideologically conservative as Cruz, but I don't know if Cruz could withstand the liberal sky screaming from all angles. Trump just laughs and attacks more and more.


You’re probably on to something here. I think it has a lot to do with Trump being around these types of people for most of his adult life and I would imagine had a helluva time triggering the frick out of them as a private citizen.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101322 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:01 pm to
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I voted against both Trump and Hillary. And I'd do it again.



So, you're one of the people that don't really understand our political process and its current framework. But, yeah, LOOK AT ME!!!!
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54203 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:01 pm to
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Looking for some affirmations?


For what exactly?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13316 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:03 pm to
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It maybe something to consider in the future, the lesser conservative with thicker skin may govern more conservatively than the more ideologically pure conservative with some degree of sensitivity for progressives.


I have pondered exactly that.

I'm afraid we are working ourselves into a trap though. I don't think there is any chance that we will have a similar situation after Trump's second term.

What are the chances that we'll see another candidate who is slightly coarse, slightly vulgar, very boisterous and in your face, and yet means every fracking word he says? A candidate who make promises like every successful republican candidate I've ever seen since 1988, but instead of it being lip service, meant to by God accomplish what he promised? I'm 48, it's happened twice in my lifetime.

It will be easy to be fooled by someone who patterns their mannerisms after Trump, who then governs like Bush 2.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7979 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:06 pm to
I voted against HRC initially. I wasn't a Trump fan either but he was definitely the lesser of 2 evils in my opinion. Sanders wasn't even a possibility. He's in bed with the Demoncrats.

I was a Carson fan, but in the primary I supported Trump and in the main election of course I voted Trump.

Would I do it again after what I've seen from Trump? You bet your sweet arse I would. The man has done phenomenal things all the while keeping the MSM guessing and hating him more because he's not part of the DC Good Ole boy network. That Stormy Daniels bullshite and the Russain Collusion bullshite is just like Obama's birth certificate. Smokescreen by the media to keep Trump from looking good. That's all they got. They can't do anything else. Once people see that, he's a shoe in for a 2nd term.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:07 pm to
I didn't vote for either. I went third party, but I said this 8 months ago and it still holds true. Had I known that Trump's election would result in the absolute meltdown we've seen from the left, I would have voted for him.

So, knowing what I know today, you're damn right I'd vote for Trump.
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