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re: If you vote for a democrat or a republican next election you are supporting this
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:30 am to Jake88
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:30 am to Jake88
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It went to millions of those who pay no federal income taxes. Should have been more targeted, but doubtful that would have passed.
Yup
Bottom line. This OP dude is an idiot who is completely ineffective but thinks he's "doing something"
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:32 am to sgallo3
quote:Absurd
You realize voting for republican is still voting for a dem right?
quote:LOOK AT ONE GUY
look at Cassidy.
Cause, you know, a Vote for Cruz was no different than for Beto
Or, for Trump was no different than Hillary
Or, for DeSantis was no different than for his fig druggie opponent
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:32 am to sgallo3
quote:Been saying that since I've been able to vote and as long as I've posted on here.
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If you vote for a democrat or a republican next election you are supporting this
I've never once in my life voted Democrat or republican for a president.
And I do feel that anyone who votes either side can't really complain because this is what you signed up for and it'll never ever ever be resolved as long as democrats and Republicans dominate the votes.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:33 am to Jake88
quote:Throwing away a vote, as you call it, is less detrimental than voting for a democrat or republican.
It is. Sorry you can't understand that
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:35 am to AussieRock
quote:I have zero reason to operate under any other assumption than this.
Are you operating under the assumption that 100% of the people who run as a Dem or Rep are compromised?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:36 am to shel311
quote:Well that's silly given that, by definition, it's a vote for one of them.
Throwing away a vote, as you call it, is less detrimental than voting for a democrat or republican.
If voting in a competitive race, voting third party is exactly equivalent to voting for the one of the other 2 that you like the least.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:40 am to AussieRock
quote:and voting for one of them, democrats or Republicans, is why we're in this political hell hole so no its not silly to say voting either D or R is the most detrimental.
Well that's silly given that, by definition, it's a vote for one of them.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:41 am to shel311
quote:And, to repeat.
and voting for one of them, democrats or Republicans, is why we're in this political hell hole so no its not silly to say voting either D or R is the most detrimental.
Voting 3rd party is EXACTLY EQUIVALENT to voting for the one of those two you LEAST like.
Congrats on looking at something fricked up and devising a way to guarantee it hits its fricked up maximum!!!!
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:44 am to AussieRock
quote:It's quite literally not, but ok.
Voting 3rd party is EXACTLY EQUIVALENT to voting for the one of those two you LEAST like.
But I'll ask, what if I dislike all democrats and Republicans equally? You're thinking of this as an individual thing, but the issue is collective.
quote:Well irs certainly not, you'd be the one guaranteeing that, not me. If everyone follows your lead, we end up where we are now... just complete shite. If everyone followed my lead, it would force politicians to at least try to do more so right by the people because they'd no longer just get an auto vote by attaching a D or R next to their name.
Congrats on looking at something fricked up and devising a way to guarantee it hits its fricked up maximum!!!!
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:46 am to sgallo3
The fight is with the globalists. You should be on that train too, not just be irrelevant
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:47 am to AussieRock
quote:
This OP dude is an idiot who is completely ineffective but thinks he's "doing something"
wrong. I don't think i'm "doing something" at all. I know that my vote is just 1 vote and probably won't decide anything.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:47 am to shel311
quote:
It's quite literally not, but ok.
Yelling "nuh uh" doesn't change the indisputable nature of what I said.
quote:You dislike all right leaning and left leaning ideas equally? Well, that's just weird.
But I'll ask, what if I dislike all democrats and Republicans equally?
quote:Collectively, while both have their issue, the stupid meme that they are exactly the same is, well, stupid.
You're thinking of this as an individual thing, but the issue is collective.
quote:Your approach changes nothing and, actually votes for the least liked of the two choices on your part no matter how desperately you try to avoid that reality.
Well irs certainly not, you'd be the one guaranteeing that, not me. If everyone follows your lead, we end up where we are now... just complete shite
quote:Woo Hoo. The "I party" would definitely be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!!
If everyone followed my lead, it would force politicians to at least try to do more so right by the people because they'd no longer just get an auto vote by attaching a D or R next to their name.
Good Lord
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 11:48 am
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:48 am to AussieRock
quote:
Voting 3rd party is EXACTLY EQUIVALENT to voting for the one of those two you LEAST like.
No. this is an absurd take.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:48 am to sgallo3
quote:But it COULD do something. You just don't know how, so, you've literally devised a way to eliminate the possibility.
wrong. I don't think i'm "doing something" at all. I know that my vote is just 1 vote and probably won't decide anything.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:49 am to sgallo3
Libertarian worked in the 1780’s
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:50 am to sgallo3
quote:
No. this is an absurd take.
3 Candidates. 1A, 1B, 1C
2 have a chance. 1A, 1B
Gallo hates 1A a lot, hates 1B slightly less but still hates them, so gallo votes for 1C
Gallo just cost 1B a vote. Thus, helping 1A
Congrats.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:51 am to AussieRock
quote:1-0 is entirely different than 0-0. I just easily disproved the indisputable thing you said.
Yelling "nuh uh" doesn't change the indisputable nature of what I said.
quote:Again, you're thinking small scope, not big picture.
You dislike all right leaning and left leaning ideas equally? Well, that's just weird.
quote:Never said they're the same, I said they're collectively the problem, the reason why politics is complete shite.
Collectively, while both have their issue, the stupid meme that they are exactly the same is, well, stupid.
quote:The idea that people should only vote for 1 of the top 2 candidates is wholely un-American, I imagine you know that.
Your approach changes nothing and, actually votes for the least liked of the two choices on your part no matter how desperately you try to avoid that reality.
quote:You're still completely whiffing on the point, which I've stated in every post. It has nothing to do with the I party being better.
Woo Hoo. The "I party" would definitely be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!!
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:52 am to AussieRock
quote:
Gallo just cost 1B a vote. Thus, helping 1A
are we voting in a vacuum?
because I don't remember the last time a Louisiana election was decided by 1 vote
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:52 am to sgallo3
quote:NOW, let's pretend that gallo has a lot of like minded friends. Not enough to win mind you, but, certainly enough to be noticed. Let's say he's achieved 15% of the electorate.
No. this is an absurd take.
Now, Candidates 1A and 1B are still the only viables but, 15% of the vote is gallo type.
If the gallos go for 1C, 1A and 1B really don't care much.
But, if 1A and 1B really feel they have a shot at the gallo party votes...........NOW, you might actually make a fricking difference!
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:54 am to sgallo3
quote:Which is why my original answer to you said, "by yourself, not much, but as a group, absolutely" your vote can matter.
because I don't remember the last time a Louisiana election was decided by 1 vote
And, to be blunt, in elections where your vote has no chance of mattering(say, a Repub vote in Cali), you aren't making any difference with any other choice you make either.
So, one presumes you are talking about when voting in a election where a small subset of votes might actually matter. If not, we're wasting time here.
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