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re: If we leave NATO, the war in Ukraine ends.

Posted on 10/21/26 at 8:44 am to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
118349 posts
Posted on 10/21/26 at 8:44 am to
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Putin has long said the breakup of the USSR was a “disaster,” and he is exercising brute force to take some back. Opinions can certainly vary as to what to do about it but stay in the real world. If the US withdraws from NATO, what would deter Russia in the Baltic States?


His primary purpose of wanting Ukraine is agriculture. Russia is very large but a small percentage of that land is fertile or has a long growing season. Ukraine supplied a lot of food during the USSR days. And the USSR still had food shortages.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2508 posts
Posted on 10/21/26 at 8:45 am to
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Europe tried to pull a fast one on us, and tried to get us to fight their enemies for them, and start WW3.


Europe can't force us to fight anybody. That decision is completely up to us.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
10537 posts
Posted on 10/21/26 at 9:39 am to
With the way Europe has financially / militarily treated and extorted us since WWII, why should we give a damn what Putin does re: the Baltic States?

Trump has tried to get them to pay the minimum amount they all agreed to for that Treaty’s defense budget requirements, and the majority of them outright refuse.

If a renter starts paying less than is due, eviction looms.
Posted by Jesterea
Member since Nov 2011
1252 posts
Posted on 10/21/26 at 9:50 am to
Extorted? We invested in Europe after WWII to are strategic benefit. It’s allowed us to wield tremendous influence in world events and has led to the most prosperous era in human history.

Y’all have been mind rotted by twitter and grifters.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
39193 posts
Posted on 10/21/26 at 10:57 am to
So why would we be transporting or importing oil in the Blak Sea beyond the coastal waters along the Southern and Western edge? Those shipments into Turkey are not being molested nor is anything going into Romania or Bulgaria.
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