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re: If Trump wins, what should be the response to the lawfare?

Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:22 pm to
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I've often said that you should never give power to an ally you don't want in the hands of an enemy one day

Yes, which would make these revenge fantasies a long-term mistake.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:23 pm to
It is how DC raises money. They let loose the dogs and promise to call them off when you respond favorably. Those favors are generally related to money.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:26 pm to
It’s going to be 1 and there will probably be pushback in the midterms but what are you gonna do? Not do the thing you’ve been promising your most committed voters because some squeamish ones might balk?
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:29 pm to
Those who orchestrated and carried out Lawfare are known. Evidence will be presented, and they will be able to defend their actions at their military tribunal. They also know who operates and uses the pedo rings, who is taking bribes, and who wears black hats.

Let's rock.
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:40 pm to
The problem with that idea is that Trump loyalists are idiots.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:45 pm to
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Trump loyalists

The problem is that they want revenge when governing effectively would be a much larger win for America First. The Democratic Party could be buried by effective America First leadership that makes lives better and makes the United States stronger. At the very least it would pull the Democrats back to the center and away from the progressives.

But going on a rampage will lose the centrist Republicans in congress and/or result in a mid term wipeout, both of which would result in Trump being prevented from implementing the policies that we all support
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 5:48 pm
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:49 pm to
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If you want nothing to get accomplished, you could try and do things like this.

Oh trust me, we already know we’ll have to stop them from accomplishing their goal.

That is our goal.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:50 pm to
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The problem is that they want revenge when governing effectively would be a much larger win for America First. The Democratic Party could be buried by effective America First leadership that makes lives better and makes the United States stronger. At the very least it would pull the Democrats back to the center and away from the progressives. But going on a rampage will lose the centrist Republicans in congress and/or result in a mid term wipeout, both of which would result in Trump being prevented from implementing the policies that we all support


Justice will be served.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:51 pm to
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Justice will be served

“Trust Sessions”
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:51 pm to
You don't have to lock them up. Revoke clearances. Layoffs. Firings, Transfers, Get rid of as many as you possibly can.

Do we REALLY need 12 different intelligence agencies? Eliminate agencies they fall under the executive branch. In the name of streamlining government cutting the budget and eliminating duplication of services.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35889 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:53 pm to
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You don't have to lock them up. Revoke clearances. Layoffs. Firings, Transfers, Get rid of as many as you possibly can. Do we REALLY need 12 different intelligence agencies?

That’s fine. But reality is reality. Make those things your day one priority and nothing else gets done. And those things get hung up in Congress and the courts and don’t really get done either.

That is post-midterm agenda stuff. Use the 18 month window for governance that our shitty system allows to actually govern and advance the agenda.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18198 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:56 pm to
A dozen guillotines outside the WH with pay per view.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26163 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:59 pm to
Big talk. What I propose you can DO.All those alphabet agencies fall under the purview of the Executive Branch.

When a President comes into office, what usually happens? Wholesale change. The entire cabinet is turned over. At times every single US Attorney in the country has been let go. This can be done. In the words of Barry Obama..Elections have consequences.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:22 pm to
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Oh trust me, we already know we’ll have to stop them from accomplishing their goal.

That is our goal.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:24 pm to
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and they will be able to defend their actions at their military tribunal

The statement of a certifiably non-insane person
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25273 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:26 pm to

18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law

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Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35889 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:51 pm to
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At times every single US Attorney in the country has been let go.

And you see that as feasible?

Because I for one don’t want the Senate spending ten months approving new US attorneys.
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2605 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:18 pm to
Trump’s circle of friends
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:23 pm to
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If Trump wins, what should be the response to the lawfare?

Apparently he's going to give them all tax free status. He's already onboard with a new building for the FBI.
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