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re: If Trump wins, takes office without issue, and gets 4 years, is the black pill dead?
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:24 am to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:24 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Is the premise here that “they” have to be infallibly all-knowing, or they don’t exist?
That seems silly.
It is silly. I used to think people like him knowingly lie but now im open to the idea that they actually have gaslit so much that they actually have convinced themselves of the lies.
Of course there are people pulling strings. Whenever there have been advanced societies, there have been people pulling strings behind the scenes. Its self preservation at its core. These people are immensely wealthy and powerful...but you are only wealthy and powerful as long as the people who arent wealthy and powerful dont remove it from you by force.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:24 am to ItNeverRains
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Thousands of years of data showing “those” wielding enormous power having cracks that lead to leaks.
If you'd listen, that's what I am arguing.
This powerful conspiracy impacting our lives doesn't exist. The cracks, as you say, are too large.
That's the whole point that shatters the black pill.
You can exist with this argument with some Motte-and-bailey fallacy in the red pill zone, but not the black pill.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:25 am to Great Plains Drifter
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If that’s a “scarecrow”
It's a straw man
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get to your point. If you have one.
You mis-stated my argument (hence the straw man).
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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The way CTs describe "they" is silly.
"They" put their name on the line for this laptop, and they lied.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:27 am to ItNeverRains
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An unelected class of federal employees wielding enormous power?
Now we see the power of the vague definitions and malleable concepts.
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Enough power to suppress social media companies from dispersing political and medical information?
There was a lot of voluntary participation by those social media companies.
Now, many claim they're part of "The Deep State", too, along various continuums (From literal CIA fronts to just new invitees)
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
I ain't finna read all the shite
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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If you'd listen, that's what I am arguing.
This powerful conspiracy impacting our lives doesn't exist. The cracks, as you say, are too large.
Here you are gaslighting again. You are good at it, ill give you that. You purposely use the word "conspiracy" because it implies something unbelievable.
Yes there are wealthy and powerful people behind the scenes controlling far more share of society than one person or one family should be. It doesnt make them all knowing, 100% effective or even smart. They are just playing a game of self preservation
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
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"They" put their name on the line for this laptop, and they lied.
Soros? The WEF? The Trilateral Commission? The CIA? The NSA? MS13? The media? FBI? Former intel officials? Bureaucrats? The Catholic Church? The Franklin Community Federal Credit Union? Tren de Aragua? The international Jewish banking cabal?
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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This powerful conspiracy impacting our lives doesn't exist
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Now up to 95 down votes. and 3 (alters?) up votes.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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But it's not the simplest explanation.
My question isn't limited to this topic
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:32 am to scottydoesntknow
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You purposely use the word "conspiracy" because it implies something unbelievable.
No. I use "conspiracy" or CTs only in reference to the unbelievable versions of the concept.
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Yes there are wealthy and powerful people behind the scenes controlling far more share of society than one person or one family should be. It doesnt make them all knowing, 100% effective or even smart. They are just playing a game of self preservation
And the members of this group change given the CT
Their power changes given the CT
Their goals change given the CT
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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If you'd listen, that's what I am arguing. This powerful conspiracy impacting our lives doesn't exist. The cracks, as you say, are too large. That's the whole point that shatters the black pill. You can exist with this argument with some Motte-and-bailey fallacy in the red pill zone, but not the black pill.
Disagree. You can be blackpilled and legitimately defend accidents happen. Crack cocaine, for example, happened. The black pilling in this scenario is the cleanup from the crackhead, the “nothing will happen” crowd.
That crowd has legitimate arguments. They impacted lives.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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And the members of this group change given the CT
There is no group. There are groups.
The US budget is the largest in the world, you would be an idiot to think there isnt' cabals digging for power.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:34 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Is the premise here that “they” have to be infallibly all-knowing, or they don’t exist?
Well it's been removed from the OP, but that is the malleability and I didn't create it.
If "they" can rig the 2020 election by changing electronic votes, they're pretty powerful. Why aren't they flexing that power in 2024?
Or, to use the examples form OP:
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He's going to legitimately win. It's no contest. One of three things will happen after that;
1). Fraud pushes Harris across the line and she is declared the winner*. Then they try out their newly minted American-killing military when people revolt.
2). Not even fraud is enough to cheat their way in, so they take him out before he can be sworn in, then try out their newly minted American-killing military when people revolt.
3). Not even fraud is enough to cheat their way in, and they don't want to risk taking him out, so they start a civil or world war and declare martial law, indefinitely suspending the peaceful transition of power, and try out their newly minted American-killing military when people revolt.
If it's not obvious, I'm telling everyone that they have set the stage for the military to take action and use lethal force against US taxpaying citizens for any reason they deem worthy. Is it going to happen? 50/50. But I choose to err on the side of caution. The elites consider us uppity and think we should be taken down a few pegs to where they think we belong. Think Hunger Games but with a much smaller ruling class.
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Compared to 2020, it’s way too uneventful leading up to the election this time around considering how significant it is and what’s at stake.
I fully believe the elites want a civil war and considering the recent revelation of the DOD directive of the legal use of lethal force, it seems we are being setup.
One way to ensure a major civil disruption occurs is to run an obviously retarded candidate that everyone knows will get smoked by Trump in a fair election. There’s a lot of confidence right now that Trump will win, even overcoming the inevitable fraud, and that’s being reinforced, surprisingly, by the left wing media hinting at that. However, in addition to running a retarded candidate, the left is going to blatantly steal the election and it will be on full display with no doubt. Those two things will ensure we devolve into chaos when Kamala is announced the winner. Then the martial law starts, etc.
The power necessary for those events is close to total. I did not create either of those CTs, mind you. I'm responding to them.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:35 am to stout
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My question isn't limited to this topic
Typically the simplest explanation leads you closer to the truth, especially in the absence of evidence (going with your gut).
That's a very simplified version of why I attack insane CTs, which require a level of complexity and execution that makes them effectively impossible without near total control.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:36 am to scottydoesntknow
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Yes there are wealthy and powerful people behind the scenes controlling far more share of society than one person or one family should be
Even he realizes this.
But he's terrified to admit it, his peers would be angry with him.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:37 am to ItNeverRains
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Crack cocaine, for example, happened.
That's red pill territory.
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The black pilling in this scenario is the cleanup from the crackhead, the “nothing will happen” crowd.
But that happened naturally over time.
The very institutions and society the black pill rejects, self-corrected post-crack epidemic.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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There was a lot of voluntary participation by those social media companies.
There was more nudging and more regret to play along last testimonies I heard.
When someone like Musk says he bought a crime scene, who do think he is referring to as the criminals.
I think he’s referring to “they”.
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