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re: If Trump gets re-elected should he annex the province of Alberta? There's support and data

Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:33 pm to
Banff is Killer!
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Thats not how it works. There is a legal avenue. Quebec was a major threat to secede for years until Canada was able to move the major economic powers from the province into a controllable jurisdiction similar to China with Hong Kong.


Totally different...Quebec was wanting to become independent...we are talking about Alberta joining the US...
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:37 pm to
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Totally different...Quebec was wanting to become independent...we are talking about Alberta joining the US...



Alberta can fully secede from Canada if the majority in the province want it. Yes, it might be a different story for the US as far as annexation, but the only issue would be voting for the democrats. Otherwise Alberta is a net producer to the economy. As long as we dont have any psycho politician cut down O&G Alberta would be a great addition and theres legitimate support.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:37 pm to
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Canada would change. The idealist left may hate fossil fuel but they won't like having to buy it and losing the natural resource that pays for all the free stuff.


Its not their choice. Alberta doesnt need the blessing of the Canadian government.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:39 pm to
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Alberta can fully secede from Canada if the majority in the province want it. Yes, it might be a different story for the US as far as annexation, but the only issue would be voting for the democrats.


The ones who would welcome Puerto Rico with open arms will have a problem with Alberta.
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:40 pm to
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The ones who would welcome Puerto Rico with open arms would have a problem with Alberta.


Of course. They like dependent states they can control and absorb into their religion.
Posted by clhawkins19
Greenville, SC
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:43 pm to
Quebec’s reasoning for independence and succession is due to the inequality faced by the québécois (French Canadians) that make them feel alienated from the rest of Canada. Alberta succeeding from Canada would cripple that country. Canada and their parliament will do all necessary to keep Alberta happy. As far as them joining the us, that wouldn’t happen. Canadians have a “we aren’t America” complex. That is a threat that has been pushed throughout Canada for years.

Plus the political ties and leaning of the province wouldn’t be a smooth transfusion into us politics. Canada, in general, is a much more progressive country than the us, and even though Alberta is well known as the most conservative province, by American standards, they are still quite left, radically more left than any state in the us.
Posted by Jinglebob
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:44 pm to
I'd trade Washington for Alberta.

Probably trade Minnesota for Manitoba too.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:45 pm to
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Plus the political ties and leaning of the province wouldn’t be a smooth transfusion into us politics. Canada, in general, is a much more progressive country than the us, and even though Alberta is well known as the most conservative province, by American standards, they are still quite left, radically more left than any state in the us.




Then they'd be voting themselves out of existence.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:49 pm to
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Alberta is hugely rich in fossil fuel resources

Sold!
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:49 pm to
We would probably have to let either DC or Puerto Rico become a state to balance out the Senate.

But if Alberta were to leave, Saskatchewan and Manitoba might want to come along. (British Columbia is too much like California, no thanks.)
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:50 pm to
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Plus the political ties and leaning of the province wouldn’t be a smooth transfusion into us politics. Canada, in general, is a much more progressive country than the us, and even though Alberta is well known as the most conservative province, by American standards, they are still quite left, radically more left than any state in the us.


But they only need to ensure Alberta gets its cut.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:55 pm to
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They dont have a bunch of welfare recipients


There are 4.3 million people in Alberta, 100% of whom are welfare recipients
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:58 pm to
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There are 4.3 million people in Alberta, 100% of whom are welfare recipients


As stated in the OP Albertans receive less than they give per capita. They are net producers in the end.
Posted by WITCH DOCTOR
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 9:05 pm to
Fort McMurray with it’s tar sands....would be a great asset to the USA...
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 9:06 pm to
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As stated in the OP Albertans receive less than they give per capita. They are net producers in the end.


They still all receive government welfare that they will not give up. And since there is no nationalized healthcare in the US...Alberta isn’t going anywhere
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 9:06 pm to
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Ever been to Alberta?


Plenty

Northern Albertans and Northern BC folks hate Ottawa.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 9:09 pm to
Can we trade them VA in exchange?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 9:10 pm to
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They still all receive government welfare that they will not give up. And since there is no nationalized healthcare in the US...Alberta isn’t going anywhere




Albertans could use the extra money they get to keep (in the billions btw) to form their own healthcare system or buy into the private healthcare system.
Posted by LSUneaux
Metairie and MAGA AF
Member since Mar 2014
4793 posts
Posted on 4/12/20 at 9:13 pm to
I don’t know about all of this. Do you think they can get on board with college football?
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