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re: If Trump declares National Emergency.. it will NOT be locked up in the courts

Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5637 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:12 pm to
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The POTUS has the legal authority to declare a national emergency when it is a national emergency and what's happening at our southern border is a national emergency and has been a national emergency for decades.


This argument would have a lot more legs if border crossings weren't at a 12 year low and were instead trending upward.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85660 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:12 pm to
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What a condescending prick you are.


this can’t be news to you
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:22 pm to
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I know when I want cogent legal analysis of issues of first impression I always run to hire the guy selling bead trinkets to tourists on a pier in California


I don't sell bead trinkets to tourists on a pier in California.

I sell my own handmade original lost wax casted and fabricated jewelry in legal selling spaces on the sidewalks of SF as a result of my brother and me getting arrested 22 times in order to challenge the constitutionality of San Francisco's peddling laws and then co-authored and campaigned for a ballot measure which was approved by the voters at the June 4, 1974 SF municipal election.

Have you ever written and campaigned for a ballot measure which was approved by the voters of your city?
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 3:24 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157830 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:23 pm to
Maybe just a new low for you.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:26 pm to
ya no, last i checked the cucks are still in control of 9th circuit and hawaii, do you even remember the travel bans?

or are you just an idiot troll?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85660 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:28 pm to
not even close, man
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85660 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:28 pm to
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I don't sell bead trinkets to tourists on a pier in California.

I sell my own handmade original lost wax casted and fabricated jewelry in legal selling spaces on the sidewalks of SF as a result of my brother and me getting arrested 22 times in order to challenge the constitutionality of San Francisco's peddling laws and then co-authored and campaigned for a ballot measure which was approved by the voters at the June 4, 1974 SF municipal election.

Have you ever written and campaigned for a ballot measure which was approved by the voters of your city?


word
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65794 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:30 pm to
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Well, looks like he can just build the wall if he wants...
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14480 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:30 pm to
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Laying the groundwork for a future pro-environment president to declare climate change a national emergency



And do what exactly?
Posted by relapse98
Member since Dec 2010
2736 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:31 pm to
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Yea I'd love to see him argue that the border only became a national emergency once Democrats won the House.


Well, technically, he'll be arguing (if he declares it) that it became an emergency only 3 weeks from now. So it wasn't the first 2 years of his presidency, but all of a sudden, it is.

Yeah, I don't know if the OP has ever dealt with an actual judge, but that shite doesn't fly.
Posted by relapse98
Member since Dec 2010
2736 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:32 pm to
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And since it will be a national emergency, it will get to the SCOTUS in less than a month.


Then it should be declared NOW. If its an emergency, why wait 3 weeks?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85660 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:32 pm to
I pity that poor DOJ career lawyer who will have to get up and argue that shite with a straight face.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:32 pm to
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If Trump declares National Emergency.. it will NOT be locked up in the courts


It will be an easy win for true Americans - he's just said it's not a big enough emergency to enact immediately, he can wait two weeks.

Plus, his emergency powers are intended for when Congress wouldn't have time to act - Congress will have 3 weeks to not approve the wall.

Easiest win for ACLU this century.
Posted by relapse98
Member since Dec 2010
2736 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:33 pm to
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You think the Supreme Court just blindly votes based on partisan politics instead of their own legal judgment?


Uhm, didn't you read?

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Trump owns the courts now.


So it has been said, so shall it be done.

Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
6174 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:35 pm to
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I hope he does declare a national emergency to accomplish this. Laying the groundwork for a future pro-environment president to declare climate change a national emergency


Laugh at a situation that would tank our economy over a myth, sheep. Baaaaaaaah is more like it.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:35 pm to
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The POTUS has the legal authority to declare a national emergency when it is a national emergency and what's happening at our southern border is a national emergency and has been a national emergency for decades.


quote:


This argument would have a lot more legs if border crossings weren't at a 12 year low and were instead trending upward.


It wouldn't be a national emergency if it wasn't for the fact that tens of thousands of "migrants" are still illegally crossing our southern border each month and the fact that thousands of people have been murdered in the USA by "migrants" who illegally crossed our southern border as well as the fact that thousands of people have died or had their lives ruined from the drugs that have been illegally smuggled into the USA across our southern border.
Posted by MsGarrison
Steele Town LOL
Member since Nov 2009
22489 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:35 pm to
Melt
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5637 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:38 pm to
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It wouldn't be a national emergency if it wasn't for the fact that tens of thousands of "migrants" are still illegally crossing our southern border each month and the fact that thousands of people have been murdered in the USA by "migrants" who illegally crossed our southern border as well as the fact that thousands of people have died or had their lives ruined from the drugs that have been illegally smuggled into the USA across our southern border.


Once again, were it an emergency and the President wanted to protect the citizens he should have declared it immediately upon being elected. Instead, it's been drawn out for 2 years in muddled politics. Imagine the lives that could have been saved
Posted by relapse98
Member since Dec 2010
2736 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:40 pm to
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Well, looks like he can just build the wall if he wants...


It's like people can't even read their own links anymore.

quote:

However, the DOD’s Section 284 authority to construct fences appears to extend only to “drug smuggling corridors, ”a condition that may limit where DOD could deploy fencing.


quote:

Property owners whose lands are seized through eminent doma in to construct border fencing would likely have standing to challenge the legality of such seizures and the underlying invocation of the relevant statutes . Some state and local governments and advocacy organizations have challenged previous border construction projects undertaken by DHS and may have standing to challenge DO D border construction projects in some instances.


So - we're back to the courts. Next?

Posted by relapse98
Member since Dec 2010
2736 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:44 pm to
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thousands of people have been murdered in the USA by "migrants" who illegally crossed our southern border


Cite? And please don't tell me you are going by the number parroted by Trump that came from an activist in Arizona. There's no way someone would use that number as there is no (zero, nada, nothing, 0) data to back it up. If you are going to throw numbers out, please do us all a favor and provide a source.

Edit: And if there have been thousands of citizens killed by illegal immigrants then it is imperative that we stop playing games and declare a national emergency today. Not tomorrow, not 3 weeks, today. Otherwise, it kinda comes off as not an emergency.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 3:47 pm
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