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re: IF there's a Civil War II, it could start in Virginia
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:16 am to DeusVultMachina
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:16 am to DeusVultMachina
quote:Sanctuary cities do no such thing. What they do is limit the level of pro bono cooperation with the federal government regarding immigration cases.
Sanctuary cities illegally shield criminals from federal justice.
You have cited no law that is violated by this practice despite my continuing to give you this GREAT OPPORTUNITY to do so. I’m beginning to think that you can’t do it. Just because you feel that being a sanctuary city is wrong doesn’t make it illegal.
The law is the law. Your feelings aren’t the law.
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:21 am to BigAppleBucky
quote:
Instead, why not think toward resolving difference among people? Start with common ground. Love of law and order, and the US Constitution, for example.
That sounds great until you realize the left doesn't care for law and order unless it makes their path towards a socialist society easier and they trample all over the Constitution on the reg. For proof check out the impeachment fiasco. Trump's constitutional rights have been violated worse than an underage girl spending the wknd with Jeffery Epstien.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:26 am to xiv
quote:
Sanctuary cities do no such thing.
Nevermind, go back to DU to download new programming. I have hit the last of your pre-programmed responses.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:35 am to BigAppleBucky
quote:
This board seems obsessed with ideas of violent strife between Americans.
Seems
Appears
Sources close to the matter
People are discussing what could happen but is unlikely to happen because there should be enough push back on you progressives to keep that from happening.
But, keep restricting rights you don't like because you are afraid of something that is statistically rare.
Common ground: I'm willing to get involved in the discussion of young people snapping and how that relates to social media, bullying and mental health issues. There is no common ground in restricting my rights.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:36 am to roadGator
Constitutional County sounds better, but I don’t love that phrase either.
With civil conflict, slavery was the ultimate trigger for the war between the states, but the core issues were cultural. The north had a very different vision for Americans society than the south.
That cultural cleavage hasn’t gone away.
With civil conflict, slavery was the ultimate trigger for the war between the states, but the core issues were cultural. The north had a very different vision for Americans society than the south.
That cultural cleavage hasn’t gone away.
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 9:42 am
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:36 am to Wtodd
The US Army and the USMC are bound by law to suppress Insurrection by force of arms. Trump would never deploy them to Va. for this purpose BUT any Dem POTUS would do so.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:37 am to Wtodd
quote:
'Member how the Dems went batshit bc Trump wanted to cut-off funding to sanctuary cities protecting illegals? Yeah there you go
Someone posted an article here the other day where the author was actually making a case that these situations aren't the same. Dims are truly deranged individuals.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:39 am to Wtodd
I'm not going to jump into this thread.
But I will say that Leftist Oppression may have begun in Va., but it most certainly will not end in Va. This Leftist Totalitarian movement has a LONG way to go before it is stopped from infecting the USA. LONG way to go -- certainly beyond all of our lifetimes.
But I will say that Leftist Oppression may have begun in Va., but it most certainly will not end in Va. This Leftist Totalitarian movement has a LONG way to go before it is stopped from infecting the USA. LONG way to go -- certainly beyond all of our lifetimes.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:39 am to DeusVultMachina
quote:
DeusVultMachina
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:39 am to Champagne
Posse comitatus says nope
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:40 am to xiv
Cool story bro, sorry you can't understand why illegal aliens are unlawful
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:41 am to Lima Whiskey
I just wrote the VCDL leadership and made three points.
1- consider moving away from Sanctuary City
2- consider creating affiliate programs in other states to increase membership and revenue. The benefit to me in FL is it shows our progressives that we are willing to get involved in Virginia's rights you better believe we are willing to do the same here in FL.
3- improve their store offerings. I went to buy a tshirt and their selection is one tshirt and it says guns save lives and it's hunter orange. give me one with their logo and I'll wear it to support them and hopefully be asked questions about how other people can get involved.
I'm all in if they ask for help.
The Florida chapter of the VCDL is ready for formation.
1- consider moving away from Sanctuary City
2- consider creating affiliate programs in other states to increase membership and revenue. The benefit to me in FL is it shows our progressives that we are willing to get involved in Virginia's rights you better believe we are willing to do the same here in FL.
3- improve their store offerings. I went to buy a tshirt and their selection is one tshirt and it says guns save lives and it's hunter orange. give me one with their logo and I'll wear it to support them and hopefully be asked questions about how other people can get involved.
I'm all in if they ask for help.
The Florida chapter of the VCDL is ready for formation.
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 9:44 am
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:42 am to xiv
Go away. You are adding nothing.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:45 am to DeusVultMachina
quote:
Posse comitatus says nope
PC is simply a statute that any Dem Congress can re-write. Besides, in cases of Insurrection, PC's application does not strictly apply in a manner that would prevent any POTUS from deploying US armed forces domestically to Suppress Insurrection.
Of course, if you can find something concrete to correct me, please do so. As it stands now, I assert that PC is no impediment to the deployment of the US Armed Forces to Suppress Insurrection.
Didn't POTUS Eisenhower deploy the US Army 101st Airborne Division to Little Rock High School?
Rest assured of this: once the US electorate is sufficiently conditioned and indoctrinated, the US FedGov will not hesitate to deploy US Armed Forces to suppress ANY "rebellion" or "insurrection".
A predicate for this kind of radical Leftist revolutionary activity would be the adequate conditioning of the US Armed Forces themselves. That is to say, the US military itself would first need to be transformed into an entity infused with the necessary Leftist political zeal, before it could be expected to do well on such domestic military activity.
We are a long time away from that. We shall see. However, I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that causes me to doubt what I believe will be the ultimate destiny of the USA.
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 9:52 am
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:46 am to imjustafatkid
quote:
Someone posted an article here the other day where the author was actually making a case that these situations aren't the same
I remember that
quote:
Dims are truly deranged individuals
Fact
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:47 am to Champagne
This is probably correct, I'm thinking serious justification would be required to deploy US military against citizenry.
P.C. act has a purpose.
P.C. act has a purpose.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:47 am to Lima Whiskey
quote:
Constitutional County sounds better, but I don’t love that phrase either.
I didn't offer a suggestion but if they follow up, I may reach out to you for some help if that's OK.
They are so invested in Sanctuary language now though that I don't think they change it.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:49 am to roadGator
We are already in the Cold Civil War. This morning the House Judiciary Committee just declared war on citizens who support the President this morning.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:50 am to xiv
Okay Dumbass, enough of your crap!
8 USC 1324: Bringing in and harboring certain aliens
(a)CRIMINAL PENALTIES
(1)
(A)Any person who—
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
(iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or
(v)
(I) engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
(II) aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts, shall be punished as provided in subparagraph
(B).
(B)A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs—
(ii) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both;
(iii) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) during and in relation to which the person causes serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of title 18) to, or places in jeopardy the life of, any person, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both; and
(iv) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both.
Other Charges available under:
8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens - Aiding and Abetting - TEN years in prison for each count.
18 U.S. Code § 1510 - Obstruction of criminal investigations - 5 years in prison;
18 U.S. Code § 1502 - Resistance to extradition agent - One Year in prison;
18 U.S. Code § 3. Accessory after the fact
18 U.S. Code § 4 - Misprision of felony - 3 years in prison for each count.
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense - 5 years in prison.
8 USC 1324: Bringing in and harboring certain aliens
(a)CRIMINAL PENALTIES
(1)
(A)Any person who—
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
(iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or
(v)
(I) engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
(II) aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts, shall be punished as provided in subparagraph
(B).
(B)A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs—
(ii) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both;
(iii) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) during and in relation to which the person causes serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of title 18) to, or places in jeopardy the life of, any person, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both; and
(iv) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both.
Other Charges available under:
8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens - Aiding and Abetting - TEN years in prison for each count.
18 U.S. Code § 1510 - Obstruction of criminal investigations - 5 years in prison;
18 U.S. Code § 1502 - Resistance to extradition agent - One Year in prison;
18 U.S. Code § 3. Accessory after the fact
18 U.S. Code § 4 - Misprision of felony - 3 years in prison for each count.
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense - 5 years in prison.
Posted on 12/13/19 at 9:52 am to SantaFe
I agree. They hate our way of life, or values, our church and apparently how we smell.
I do not wish for a civil war but the pendulum must swing back.
My problem with progressives is that they never stop. I’m good with gays being in civil unions. I’m not ok with boys dressing like Women in changing rooms or believing that men menstruate.
Where does it end?
I do not wish for a civil war but the pendulum must swing back.
My problem with progressives is that they never stop. I’m good with gays being in civil unions. I’m not ok with boys dressing like Women in changing rooms or believing that men menstruate.
Where does it end?
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