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re: If the gas and food costs keep rising, why shouldn't minimum wage do so as well?

Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by carlsoda
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Member since Dec 2009
5776 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:40 pm to
Fast food workers don't make min wage. No one makes min wage unless they are retirees and high schoolers
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:40 pm to
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no you're not, Libertarians believe in free market


He must have heard that Libertarians are cool and that they want to legalize pot & prostitution.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted by LarrytheGolfer
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:41 pm to
I just asked a controversial question. I'm not saying I'm in support of it.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17370 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:42 pm to
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what is supposed to even out the rising costs of things that we need to survive?

What % of people making minimum wage, receive food stamps and/or WIC? I think that question need to be answered before lobbying for a minimum wage increase.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56520 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:42 pm to
Because price controls don't work.
Posted by Delacroix
Member since Oct 2008
4026 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:43 pm to
Raising minimum wage increases inflation and devalues the dollar. Which hurt the people that actually save money. If you want more money, then you should learn a skill to make you more irreplaceable.
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
5659 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:45 pm to
take it to the poli board hippies
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295342 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:48 pm to
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What % of people making minimum wage, receive food stamps and/or WIC? I think that question need to be answered before lobbying for a minimum wage increase.


Right. Is someone better off making $8.00 an hour plus housing, food, day care, earned income credit, etc... or making $25/hour and no benefits?



The current system rewards those who don't move up the ladder to become self sufficient. It's systematic.

This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:49 pm to
I'd like to see the numbers regarding food prices supposedly increasing.

I'm willing to bet food is cheaper than it's ever been in history in regards to total output to obtain a sufficient diet.

Just b/c kraft macaroni and cheese has gone up .20 c over the last two years doesn't necessarily mean food is more expensive.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73091 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:49 pm to
Costs are determined by supply and demand. For basic goods that everyone needs, market forces would never price out an entire legion of consumers
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
7367 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:51 pm to
The minimum wage is not a destination; it is the starting point-- even in low end fast food jobs, things like being on the job 90 days will produce bumps above the minimum wage, frequently.

If you do not want to earn minimum wage, there are a number of helpful tips:

Show up to work. Be on time. Listen to, and follow simple instructions. Find a skill within your workplace to specialize in, to the point of being better at that thing than your co-workers.

If you do these things, the sky may not be the limit, but the minimum wage will eventually be in your rear view mirror, and the world of better options will slowly open up for you.

Work to get ahead. It is why they call it work, after all.
Posted by Ortho Reb
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2011
9466 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:51 pm to
Minimum wage is a starting point, so you should make more than that anyway. Part time workers don't deserve to make enough to worry about rising gas and food costs. If they're that worried about it, then they're probably working 2 jobs anyway.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73091 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:53 pm to
OP, why would a supplier price something at a value that puts it out of reach of consumers?
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:53 pm to
if you raise minimum wage because food costs and gas costs are rising, then those costs will exponentially rise again...then what?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295342 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:54 pm to
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The minimum wage is not a destination; it is the starting point-- even in low end fast food jobs,


My wife has a distant relative who worked two fast food jobs plus some college work, raising three kids. In three years, she is the mgr of her own restaurant and making middle class money.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16954 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:02 pm to
Impossibru!!! Min wage workers are simply a victim of their circumstance and are at an unfair disadvantage!!!
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24690 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:02 pm to
Minimum wage is not supposed to last an entire career it is a starting point but our workforce is full of slapdicks who are comfortable making Gorditas and don't realize it.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:05 pm to
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Costs are determined by supply and demand. For basic goods that everyone needs, market forces would never price out an entire legion of consumers


Exactly, and if they incur more expenses, they will simply cut back somewhere else, either in another job lost, or in cutting back on product.

Posted by dantes69
Boise, Id.
Member since Aug 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:10 pm to
its not how much you make, it's your buying power, raise the mw and costs go up, your buying power stays the same, however everyone else buying power just went down, this is how you shrink the middle class.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
79875 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:14 pm to
so, you want gas and food prices to rise even faster and higher?
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