re: If she smokes, she pokes...lung cancer & HPV: were we wrong about tobacco?

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is promiscuity at a higher prevalence?

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I don't think you're going to be able to link promiscuity with cancer, unless it is a vector for a disease mechanism - thus my question.

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My bias says, HIV scare led to more condom use

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That's probably a fair assumption. However, some misguided information about transmission vectors, girls began engaging in high-risk alternatives to intercourse (oral sex) - wrongly believing it lower HIV transmission risk. I think that was ultimately corrected, but there was about a 8 to 10 year period where that ignorance was repeated.

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guys less likely to have been with a prostitute.

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I don't think there's any data to support this.

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So guys less likely to get it, but girls more likely.

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Not likely, males tend to have more sexual partners and are more likely to engage in high risk sexual behavior and over a longer period of time.

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I am just wondering if Smoking related health issues are unfairly inflated.

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Well - there are a number of things going on - 100 years ago there weren't even machine rolled cigarettes.

In addition - smoking cessation campaigns have disproportionately helped men - in 1965 in the U.S. 50% of men smoked, while only 33% of women did so.

As cigarette production amped up significantly after WWII - a lot more things were done to increase the yield at the farm, plus all of the associated processing in the mass rolling machines. So part of the rapid increase in the detrimental effects were caused by a number of factors:

1. More Americans were smoking more cigarettes and starting at a younger age.

2. Far removed from the (relatively) base dried tobacco leaves, handrolled by the user from just a couple of decades earlier, this toxic concoction of powdery tobacco - effectively produced in factories by the billions - adulterated by herbicides, fungicides and pesticides (nicotine itself is a potent insecticide - it is why the plant produces it in the first place) - none of which are good for you in liquid form and probably as bad or worse if burned and inhaled deeply.

3. The cigarette makers began to respond to pushbacks against smoking on health concerns by amping up the nicotine in their falsely promoted "low-tar" and "healthier" cigarettes (which, were just as bad, or worse for you than the pure old tobacco cigarettes) to keep their addicted customers jonesing for longer. That alteration to the product (nicotine is both the addictive part of tobacco and one of its deadliest components) certainly didn't help.

While complicated, I don't think it is much more complicated than that.

Cigarettes are bad - bad for heart, lungs, brain, many other organs AND pose a known cancer risk because of the scores of known carcinogens produced by them while burning.

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Smoking cigarettes has a long way to go in order to reach the level of fear-mongering "Climate Change" has achieved.

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Cancer is only the end game with smoking. There is a multitude of problems that arise prior to cancer formation.

If you feel like smoking is being demonized though, go right ahead and smoke.

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Tigah in the ATL

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Did you even read the link I provided?

There is absolutely no comparison when it comes to the scare tactics of "Climate Change" vs. smoking.

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this has perplexed me to explain. My bias says, HIV scare led to more condom use, and being that girls are more promiscuous, guys less likely to have been with a prostitute.


What the frick?

This is just another one of your poor attempts to demonize women.

Please do the world a favor and light up.

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Yeah. On what planet are "girls more promiscuous" than men?

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I don't think a person needs a scientific study to know that inhaling smoke with formaldehyde, tar, nicotine, etc. as opposed to inhaling clean air is bad for you. Really?

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None of those things are what make smoking so terrible, though they play a role. Its the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, naphthylamine and arsenic that do the real damage.

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This is just another one of your poor attempts to demonize women.

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I think this is twice in the last month or so we've actually agreed on something.

If we could wean Americans off of fast food and cigarettes, the average lifespan would skyrocket when combined with modern medicine. We'd be averaging in the mid-80s within 50 years.

I think if you just took a bath every day, you might get laid more and hate women less.

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There is absolutely no comparison when it comes to the scare tactics of "Climate Change" vs. smoking.

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Smoking: you're going to die and so is everyone you come in contact with

Climate change: your great great grandchildren are all going to have to live inland, if we as a species make it that far

One huge difference is that we are beaten over the head with anti smoking advertising on a much larger scale. There's also the fact that tobacco companies have very few avenues to advertise their product. Get back to me when SUV commercials aren't on TV anymore, and F-150s come with global warming warning stickers.