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re: If Marie Yovanovitch was so terrible why did Trump keep her around until May of this year?

Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:54 pm to
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She served for over 2 years completely unnoticed and now he has this very strong opinion of her?
Never fired one of your hundreds of mythical employees have you Powerliar?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:54 pm to
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It's a legitimate question.



Actually it's not. You have been given answers. As she testified to today

- Trump needs zero reason to fire her, therefore YOU don't need it to be explained to you.

- She told you today that her 3 year term was up.

- Since her 3 year term was up and new leadership was in power, Trump made a change.


Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:55 pm to
HHM answered it on the first page.


No one really gaf if you think it's "intelligent" enough. Whateverthefrick that's supposed to mean.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:56 pm to
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Actually it's not. You have been given answers. As she testified to today

- Trump needs zero reason to fire her, therefore YOU don't need it to be explained to you.

- She told you today that her 3 year term was up.

- Since her 3 year term was up and new leadership was in power, Trump made a change.



And Zelensky didn’t trust her and didn’t want to work with her.

He keeps ignoring that.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:56 pm to
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Trump needs zero reason to fire her,

That doesn't mean he didn't have a reason

I'm asking what that reason was. And why he waited so long to do it if she is as incompetent as he is claiming.

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therefore YOU don't need it to be explained to you.

Trump certainly doesn't owe me an explanation and he certainly isn't my audience. Unlikely I'll ever meet him. It's a question for the people on the forum to ponder.

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She told you today that her 3 year term was up.

- Since her 3 year term was up and new leadership was in power, Trump made a change.


And based on what Trump had to say about her it's rather suspicious he didn't fire her over a year ago
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:57 pm to
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If someone is so obviously terrible as he is claiming I don't think I'd keep them around for over 2 years.
All 200 of your mythical employees are perfect!
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:59 pm to
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He could have fired her anytime he wanted but she was there until May 20th, 2019.

Presidents can release ambassadors from their duty any time they want to.


Is this another thread where you ask a question that you don't want the answer to? How did your last attempt about tax returns go?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:59 pm to
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I'm asking what that reason was. And why he waited so long to do it if she is as incompetent as he is claiming.
Never fired one of your mythical employees have you Powerliar?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39424 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:00 pm to
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Trump certainly doesn't owe me an explanation and he certainly isn't my audience. Unlikely I'll ever meet him. It's a question for the people on the forum to ponder.


Again, it's been answered. Not sure why you are still here.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:01 pm to
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Again, it's been answered. Not sure why you are still here.
Because Power has been swilling appletinis and thinks he has hit a home run.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:01 pm to
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Never fired one of your mythical employees have you Powerliar?



I've fired a lot more people than I'd like to ahave but they all did it to themselves. I'm a very lenient guy.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7570 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:02 pm to
Time to move along. Any idiot that can’t grasp that at some point in time she needed to be fired is beyond hope.

I have multiple businesses and tons of employees. I’ve had to terminate people that were with me for 10 yrs or more. It absolutely sucks. But, once issues come to light that warrant termination, it must be done. Their behavior changed over time. Maybe you are not smart enough to understand this.

Only an idiot would argue that because she wasn’t fired earlier it somehow undermines Trump.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:02 pm to
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I've fired a lot more people than I'd like to ahave
And you did it all within days of meeting them haven't you! fricking idiot. Hundreds of employees and you know them all personally don't you Powerputz?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:04 pm to
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Any idiot that can’t grasp that at some point in time she needed to be fired is beyond hope.

And the timing isn't suspicious at all of course

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It absolutely sucks. But, once issues come to light that warrant termination, it must be done. Their behavior changed over time. Maybe you are not smart enough to understand this.

I actually agree with you 100% on this

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Only an idiot would argue that because she wasn’t fired earlier it somehow undermines Trump.



It doesn't necessarily undermine him but it might.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:04 pm to
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And the timing isn't suspicious at all of course
Retard.
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It doesn't necessarily undermine him but it might.
How?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:06 pm to
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And you did it all within days of meeting them haven't you!

In some cases yes actually

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Hundreds of employees and you know them all personally don't you Powerputz?



No. Some of them I've only briefly met. If they're a problem I usually hear about it from one of their immediate supervisors or from a client.

A lot of the firings I've had to do were over attendance issues unfortunately. Such is life in the construction world.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:06 pm to
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And based on what Trump had to say about her it's rather suspicious he didn't fire her over a year ago

It appears obvious that what you're insinuating is that Trump had nefarious motivations for the firing that are connected with the current allegations against him. That the former ambassador was a threat to him.

But the suspicion as to why he kept her around for that length of time doesn't mesh at all with your likely insinuations. If she was a threat then he would have fired her immediately. Why would he keep her around if she was a threat to him?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:08 pm to
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or from a client.
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I usually hear about it
Orly? fricking idiot.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64654 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:08 pm to
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it's rather suspicious


oh no not that
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:08 pm to
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So you think that a diplomat appointed by Bush that survived his second term, two Obama terms, and went seemingly unnoticed by Trump until she posed a potential political problem has just been shitting the bed this whole time?
Again. You don’t know how this works.

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Timing isn't suspicious at all to you?
Nope. It’s well known that career diplomats, or career government employees in general hate Trump. It’s so accepted in those circles, encouraged even, to “resist” or whatever they call it. Even if it means going against standard protocol or even breaking laws. They don’t even realize that they’ve abandoned their duties. They really just do it to fit in with each other. That’s what the real swamp and deep state is. It’s not some conspiracy. It’s a mindset that the ineffective and uncaring USG bureaucrats have. It’s a culture more than anything. It’s pretty sad. The majority of them care more about telling people that they’re in the state dept than they do actually about doing their jobs.
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