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re: If both political parties are on the side of Labor, what does this mean for capitalism?
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:45 am to BuckyCheese
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:45 am to BuckyCheese
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Look, I know you are completely binary
Maybe you should review what you typed if you disagree with yourself.
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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What about automation?
Should dockworkers be protected from innovation?
Of course not. Advancements will occur. That is natural. That is why we should control what we can. Immigration is one of those things.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Oh dear god...
I gave you another juicy response in the edit
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:46 am to imjustafatkid
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. That is natural.
So is reducing cost.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So is reducing cost.
Great, but that doesn't support your argument here.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:48 am to frogtown
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Corporations enslaving people, as Kilroy suggested, is anti free market.
Explain why.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:49 am to imjustafatkid
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Great, but that doesn't support your argument here.
Sure it does.
I'll put this the easiest way possible.. If youre employed by a company who can hire lesser qualified people for less money, you are being paid too much and are underemployed.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
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If youre employed by a company who can hire lesser qualified people for less money, you are being paid too much and are underemployed.
Absolutely, but that doesn't support your argument here.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:50 am to JohnnyKilroy
Do you consider no bid government contracts to be free market?
H1B visas are just a couple of steps removed from that. Do you not understand why?
H1B visas are just a couple of steps removed from that. Do you not understand why?
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:51 am to imjustafatkid
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Absolutely, but that doesn't support your argument here.
Sure it does.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:52 am to JohnnyKilroy
The South gave us a first hand lesson.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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But on the spectrum, I would prefer more capitalism to a command economy.
That’s about the best we can do for now. We don’t give up making the arguments, but reality does hit us in the face.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:52 am to goatmilker
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Well we have lots of controls and regs and laws concerning markets, capital and corporations.
With them we have the biggest economy on the planet. Without any controls what would we have? A corporate utopia? A Rollerball world?
We also have the 6 major corps controlling almost all media, all arms production and all pharmaceutical products.
Pure this or pure that doesn't exist in real economics.
Do we want the Big 6 to continue as is or do we want change?
The Shrub will claim I'm not a capitalist for saying this but many of those corps should be broken up.
Competition is best for both innovation and lowering costs to consumers. Splitting them up also reduces their control over both the government and the populace.
I should note, because some won't get it otherwise, these huge companies are generally worth more as several independent operations than as one huge conglomerate.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:53 am to Sofaking2
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That’s about the best we can do for now. We don’t give up making the arguments, but reality does hit us in the face.
Our choices are such. Import some workers or offshore corporations.
Companies will leave in droves if they cant find the workers they need.
Tesla's Model Y is 40% cheaper in China than the USA. On a global market thats incredible.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Sure it does.
No it doesn't. You're attempting to connect natural business processes to immigration policy. The only way to get there is to believe corporations and the government are the same entity. In reality, governments control immigration policy for any number of reasons, including the job market.
You have yet to connect your actual factual statements to the idea that the current version of the H1B visa program is a good thing anyone here should support.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 11:58 am
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:56 am to SlowFlowPro
We're a corporate oligarchy so of course the workers are getting pissed. Our government is pushing us into debt and spending outrageously which is a big factor in inflation and there's no end in sight. If there was such thing as a minimum wage you want that to be small as possible. Minimum wage is basically forced labor pay which still isn't a true value of low living standards. We have so many issues and it could be fixed if someone wanted to but it hasn't so hopefully everyone is a doctor, lawyer or engineer or you're fricked.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Our choices are such. Import some workers or offshore corporations.
In reality, these are not the only choices.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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% are.
Youre wanting the people to control corporations, correct?
I have explained this to you many times. The world you are trying to make up has never existed in the USA.
So either we have always been socialists or your criteria of what conservative means is wrong.
Your idea of free trade leads to a transfer of wealth that drives down all pay. It also removes borders and culture.
It imports the ideas of communism because companies have to live by the rules places like China set.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:58 am to imjustafatkid
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No it doesn't. You're attempting to connect natural business processes to immigration policy.
Yes
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The only way to get there is to believe corporations and the government are be the same entity.
What the frick?
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In reality, governments control immigration policy for any number of reasons, including the job market.
Would you rather import workers or offshore corporations? Those are the two choices. Americans still havent returned to work since Covid.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:58 am to BuckyCheese
The corporations learned much from Teddy Roosevelt and the populist movement to break up monopolies.
Control the narrative next time.
They succeeded. They control most of the vast media. Hats off to them. Doesn't mean it's best for the citizens though.
Control the narrative next time.
They succeeded. They control most of the vast media. Hats off to them. Doesn't mean it's best for the citizens though.
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