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re: I will never blame the illegal

Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:00 am to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10384 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:00 am to
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No, its simple economics.


Is it?

I notice you didn't answer any of my other questions.

Answer them, and let's see how simple it is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295342 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:02 am to
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Is it?


1000000%

Where there is low risk and great opportunity, what do you think will happen?
Posted by Paytonisablowhard
Member since Feb 2024
1187 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:04 am to
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would do whatever it took to get my family out of a shitehole country and to the USA



Understand what you mean, but you can't lump them all into the category of " getting my family out of a shite hole country" just like you can't lump them all in the category of the two that raped and murdered a 12 year old

They do all belong in one category, ILLEGAL, round them up and ship them out
Posted by Cajun67
alexandria
Member since Jul 2021
590 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:14 am to
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In 8 years he went to school, learned the language, got citizenship, became a physical therapist assistant
nothing happens in a vacuum . these events believe it or not took opportunities from a legal citizen and apparently tax payers.
this kind of justification is the slippery slope , repeat this at the real levels occurring across the USA and there is the silent but thundering reality .
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
8503 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:15 am to
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I will never blame the illegal


They as a collective group are entitled, narcistic cockroaches!
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1293 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:11 am to
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If it ever could happen (fantasy world or not) that we truly crack down on illegal border crossing, I believe we could then reassess our LEGAL immigration policies and practices. I'm not saying they're wrong or outdated. I'm just saying you could help more law-abiding people that truly want to have a better life and contribute to society. But what has taken place over the last 4+ years has made this impossible.


Coming to know ppl who went through the legal process I now see that it does in fact need some reform. Credit given to the D talking point there (not that they necessarily ever intended to really do anything meaningful about it). Instead of bringing ppl in and allowing them to languish for 10 years in uncertainty, we should just let them know upfront if they will ever succeed in their efforts. If an immediate No is given then they will not try. Also, chain migration will go away as it typically occurs in the languishing period.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
13898 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:12 am to
I blame all the above.
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
42219 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:13 am to
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The real criminals in this situation are the bureaucrats that have allowed this to happen, giving the illegal's incentive to come, while refusing to enforce the laws of our country.


All done, not for the goodness out of their collective heart, but rather to manipulate elections.

But yeah, I'M the fascist.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26187 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:15 am to
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people directly responsible for this situation by refusing to enforce the laws, governing sanctuary cities and opening purse strings to those that come should be indicted.


Billions.of dollars have been made off of this.


Follow the Money.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70813 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:36 am to
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nothing happens in a vacuum . these events believe it or not took opportunities from a legal citizen and apparently tax payers. this kind of justification is the slippery slope , repeat this at the real levels occurring across the USA and there is the silent but thundering reality .


Perhaps. But I’d counter that with us not exactly having qualified applicants beating our doors down for jobs and many of the ones we do hire in the same age range being entitled little shits who aren’t exactly the hardest of workers.

Posted by Tigerdogg
"Jack Hunt!! Jack Hunt!!"
Member since Feb 2005
1082 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:40 am to
Everyone in the country is an immigrant or the descendant of one in some way. Come. Here. Legally.
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
1062 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:52 am to
That's awesome, they are also taking resources away from our senior citizens by bankrupting social security. Most senior citizens that paid into it their whole lives are living on peanuts because the government is using it for everything else it wasn't even intended for. Creating even more inflation for all of us with all the freebies as well. It should just be for our Seniors and disabled people.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 9:59 am
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19249 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:57 am to
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We can’t be the welfare state to the world or we turn into those shitholes, then everyone is fricked.


100% agree.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9016 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:27 am to
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If they were quality people they would improve their home.


Try living in completely failed nation with 82% of the people live in poverty an and then tell me how easy it is for single individual to improve it.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10384 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Where there is low risk and great opportunity, what do you think will happen?


When someone won't answer questions in a debate, what does it almost always mean?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295342 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:31 pm to
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When someone won't answer questions in a debate, what does it almost always mean?


Not sure because I answered your question.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10384 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:32 pm to
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Where there is low risk and great opportunity, what do you think will happen?


It being inevitable doesn't mean it's justifiable or that the people who do it are above blame. Remember what the thread is about.

We'll always have crime.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't blame criminals, and it definitely doesn't mean that you can look at any given person and say, "Well, you'd do it too," and have that be a true statement.

Someone is going to resort to crime. Sure. Guaranteed. For ever. That does not = Everyone would or any given person would.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10384 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:33 pm to
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Not sure because I answered your question.


And what does it mean when people lie, like you just did?

I asked you at least four questions and you didn't answer any of them. And anyone following the conversation knows it.

My advice is to stop digging.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295342 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:34 pm to
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And what does it mean when people lie, like you just did?


I gave you an answer.

You argue like a Democrat.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10384 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:36 pm to
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I gave you an answer.

You argue like a Democrat.


Really? You want to act like this.

O.k., copy and paste coming up.

And you argue like a lying bitch.
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