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re: I was in Paris last year (March) three things surprised me

Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20061 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:16 pm to
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I'm sure Europeans check under their beds for Muslims before they go to sleep at night.


Even if the Muslim population were 100% law abiding and peaceful. The fact that Europe is throwing away their culture and cities to an invasive populace is the biggest travesty.

Muhammad didn't pull the sword from the stone
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
9897 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:58 pm to
Me and my wife went to Strassburg in June last year and you could definitely tell in some spots there was a presence. Head scarfs, Middle East males, and a few Burkas. They also had French Soilders walking around with MP5s. There were a few attacks around France a couple of weeks earlier. Most of the tourist areas they do a good job of ensuring security,but Islam is a growing threat around Europe. There is a difference between vacationing somewhere and living somewhere.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 10:59 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:08 pm to
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You mean a bunch of people who have never left the Southeast have no idea what they're talking about? I'm shocked


That's an illogical assumption. This message board is based primarily in the Baton Rouge/LSU community, but a lot of us post from all over the place.

I'm an LSU alumni and first started posting when I was in Baton Rouge. I go to San Francisco every year for a few days. I live in Pittsburgh, and have at some point lived in Texas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida. I'm preparing to set up a second residence in Marseille for a large project that should start later this year, and I'll probably be in Tel Aviv for a month before that.

I fly about 70,000 miles every year for work and in 2015 I lived for two months in Istanbul - a city that has dealt with a thousands and thousands of these refugees. I've seen, spoke to, and met some of them. I have a very good idea how educated people in Istanbul feel about this problem.

This crisis is not getting better. It's impacting politics, the social safety net, public safety, and the public perception of terrorism. What Istanbul is dealing with today will be a problem for many Western European cities in the not to distant future. This may not be an imminent threat like some are making it out to be, but it is a problem that a lot of Europeans I know (and work with every day) feel isn't being addressed as well as it should.

You should not be too dismissive. What some of these posters are saying about the future of Paris, Marseille, Istanbul, or Brussles may be hyperbole, but that doesn't mean there isn't a problem worth being concerned about. This is only the beginning of what will likely be a disturbing migration and ideological trend that will take place over the next century.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:16 pm to
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I fly about 70,000 miles every year for work and in 2015 I lived for two months in Istanbul - a city that has dealt with a thousands and thousands of these refugees.


The problem is that the refugee crisis and the immigration issue get conflated. They aren't the same thing. The refugee situation won't be solved until there is some sort of peace in Syria.

Right now is as good a time as any to rework the failed refugee system that developed in the post war era.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:22 pm to
I was in London in 2015. Outside of Harrods was a pro Palestinian march that lasted hours. Thousands and thousand. I had just purchased cheese and charcuterie boards. Had to wait to have my picnic. There...now we both have our anecdotal stories out there.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1690 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:55 pm to
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We're already seeing the EUR fray at the periphery (literally), and those economies have had their largest and most powerful tool for combating unemployment and sovereign debt snatched away from them, and they can't do anything about it.

It will cause more social instability, radical politics, and continued friction as long as the current set up remains.


Which makes me wonder, maybe we should let Germany 'lead' the EU if the current setup is flawed and will eventually fail?

We give them just enough EU leadership rope to hang themselves geopolitically and economically once shite does hit the fan so that Greece, Italy etc, and eventually France, blame the Germans for leading and uniting them to economic ruin?
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 11:57 pm
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26248 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 12:14 am to
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I have traveled more than anyone on this board, outside of maybe a couple. . .maybe


Calling your bluff let's see your stamps
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26248 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 12:22 am to
Just because you're the exception doesn't mean there's a point to be made. I would be willing to bet money the majority on this board couldn't fill up one page in a passport book that they don't own. One guy told me traveling was stupid and if he wanted to learn about a place he'd read it in a book. It's a small town conservative trait to not want to exit your comfort zone so I don't know why anyone would take much offense to it. Plenty of people I know are proud to not like to leave their areas. That said the arm chair foreign policy leaders just sitting around googling Muslims in Sweden really have no idea what it's like over there. I recently spent some time in Covington and I met the people there and totally understand the mindset around here now.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:30 am to
The lefts strategy to call anyone that disagrees with them hillbillies is amusing. You have no idea who is on this board, but are willing to bet you know about their travel habits. Because they are from the south? Man...talk about outting yourself as a bigot.

There are a lot of very well educated, very wealthy, and very well traveled people on this board. You know how I know we count can't you among them???
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 7:32 am
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5935 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:35 am to
And all big city democrats are gay, trans, black welfare queens, and support abortion.

See I can paint with a broad brush also.
I'm from the smallest of small towns and now live back in that town but I'm probably more educated than you and have been to 9 countries in North and Central America and the Carribean, 2 in South America plus have been to Europe and South Africa.

Most of my friends are well educated and have traveled extensively, so before you look down on us small town conservatives Hillary Clinton, you might want to get a clue.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26248 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:36 am to
Melt my pretty melt.

Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:36 am to
Oh Jesus fricking Christ

A fricking tourist has it all figured out.

When are you going to Caracas?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26248 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:42 am to
Gthog enters the thread..

He curses... HE POSTS...


Ladies and gentlemen he...he...


NEVER COMES BACK INTO THE THREAD HE SPAMS! ANOTHER ONE! GTHOGS DONE IT AGAIN!!!

(Crowd cheers wildly)
Posted by LSUFANMICK
Colorado Springs
Member since Sep 2009
1240 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:43 am to
FAKE NEWS! I went a few months ago and they are everywhere.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:44 am to
No melting here. I'm amused by your outright bigotry. I'm also amused at the obvious projection. Your inferiority complex due to lack of education/income comes across loud and clear. I hope you are just young and will grow out of it. But not too quickly. You are highly amusing and I enjoy your entertainment.


Dance, clown.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26248 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:58 am to
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Harrods


Place is insane eh?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:04 am to
It's pretty big. I like the historical landmarks in Europe. I don't usually like to spend time there shopping. But I do like their deli and I was stuck....couldn't get to the park across the street because of the hundreds of thousands of muslims marching and chanting death to Israel. Such a charming protest.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26248 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:07 am to
Biggest in Europe. I think, department store anyway. I missed the death march everyone has been pretty calm whenever I'm there. Saw some prince walk up with 4 body guards and look at a £300,000 diamond encrusted lighter. I shite you not.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:08 am to
His cigars aren't going to light themselves.
Posted by skiptumahloo
Member since Mar 2017
714 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:09 am to
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1. All this talk of Muslims left and right. Sorry, didn't jump out at all for me.


Yep, total myth. You'll see women wearing a headscarf at a little higher clip than in New Orleans or Baton Rouge, but not anymore than in New York or other major international cities.

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2. I knew the city was popular with tourists but it impossible to describe how flooded it is with everyone from Brits, to Russians to Japanese to Americans. Holy Moly, and this was in rainy and cold March!


It's the most visited city in the word for a reason!

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3. I cannot speak for the countryside but in Paris I had absolutely no problem getting around with the English language.


I guess I can't speak much for the countryside either, but other cities in France are the same. In general, the French have less of a chip on their shoulder about language than, say, French Canadians.

And the idea of Parisians being rude or hating Americans is silly too. Like any major destination city, the locals get tired of dealing with all inconsiderate tourists, but if you're not obnoxious, they won't be. The English honestly have more of an anti-american streak than the French, honestly. Which is not at all to say that people should avoid England, because they shouldn't.
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