re: I want to hear from the Agnostics. What will the secular world eventually evolve into?

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Sure. But claiming they sprang forth from evolutionary principles is a harder sell (though not impossible)

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How so?

After studying the matter decades ago, I have never seriously considered the notion that morals arose from anything OTHER than a matter of societies adapting social behaviors that "work" in the sense of facilitating inter- and intra-group interaction. e.g. Killing another member of the group is "immoral" or "wrong" because a group will not function as effectively if group members are not punished for killing one another at random.

You don’t need to believe in anything to be a good person. The problem is that the atheists and agnostics don’t realize or want to admit that their entire worldview is explicitly Christian.

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You need religion (or something we'd commonly describe as supernatural) for the word "good" to have any real meaning.

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Why? Can you not even entertain the idea that it's possible that there is nothing supernatural? And if there isn't, does that mean everything that we deem "good" was never actually that?

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You don’t need to believe in anything to be a good person. The problem is that the atheists and agnostics don’t realize or want to admit that their entire worldview is explicitly Christian.

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I don't disagree. But to act like Christians created these virtues is disingenuous. Christianity is most likely a facsimile of pagan religions before it.

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I don't disagree. But to act like Christians created these virtues is disingenuous. Christianity is most likely a facsimile of pagan religions before it.

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Nope, they did. There is one major difference between these values as promoted, though not always practiced, by Christians and almost every other society on earth. I’ll wait for you to figure it out.

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According to the Bible, Hebrew slaves had their own set of rules. Other slaves were to be handed down to children of owners.
You wanna be my slave? I’ll release you in 7 years

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Nice miss-interpretation Captain Context. Jesus said to accept the position you're in, not that slavery was okay. As far as your verse in Exodus, the book is a history of Jews in Egypt. Moses wrote about slaves because that was what was going on.

You sound like a cancel culture warrior who wants to burn Tom Sawyer because the phrases that were in common use then aren't acceptable to your delicate sensibilities.

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I believe that you don’t need religion in order to be a good person

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Then why do we need laws? And who determines what is a "good person"?

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I doubt those exist on any large scale. I don't mind if you wait, but did you think I'd claimed otherwise?

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Then why do you count the uniqueness of the only sort of society to ever decide on the basis of the morality of their dominant religion that enslaving others was wrong and to voluntarily give it...or even set about eradicating it?

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Killing another member of the group is "immoral" or "wrong" because a group will not function as effectively if group members are not punished for killing one another at random.

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If this is simply herd morality why should we let babies with defects live? By evolutionary standards it's bad. There's a chance they'll procreate, passing on defective genes. Even if we sterilized them they'll command more resources than a normal, healthy baby. In the wild they're typically abandoned if not outright killed. That's Darwin, that's nature, that's science, that's evolution, and that's exactly what we should do if our morality is really just a utilitarian tool with no goal other than furthering the species.

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If this is simply herd morality why should we let babies with defects live? By evolutionary standards it's bad. There's a chance they'll procreate, passing on defective genes. Even if we sterilized them they'll command more resources than a normal, healthy baby. In the wild they're typically abandoned if not outright killed. That's Darwin, that's nature, that's science, that's evolution, and that's exactly what we should do if our morality is really just a utilitarian tool with no goal other than furthering the species.

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Jeopardy theme....

Name an ancient practice common in Rome and Greece involving deformed, female, or otherwise unwanted children that ceased as Christianity became more widespread and took over civil authority.