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I think Louisiana has a voter reading comprehension problem with the Amendments *updated*
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:54 pm
I’ve been asked to decipher what four or five of the amendment questions meant and how yes or no affects them.
I have a feeling our knuckle dragging compadres have no idea what the questions mean.
Maybe they could write them at a 5th grade level to help these folks out. I’m convinced most don’t understand the questions and implications.
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I have a feeling our knuckle dragging compadres have no idea what the questions mean.
Maybe they could write them at a 5th grade level to help these folks out. I’m convinced most don’t understand the questions and implications.
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This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 8:11 am
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Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:58 pm to DiamondDog
Well not everyone is well versed in the thousands of laws and regulations.
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:01 am to DiamondDog
I’m a pretty astute person, and I read the pros/cons and arguments for/against on all of them.
Man, I was still a tad confused on about 4 of them. JFC, write that shite a bit better. Pure political talk in some.
The couple that argued against because they had no debate out of commission, and why not let the legislature debate it, I kind of thought seemed the best course of action.
Because I STILL had no clue what they meant
Man, I was still a tad confused on about 4 of them. JFC, write that shite a bit better. Pure political talk in some.
The couple that argued against because they had no debate out of commission, and why not let the legislature debate it, I kind of thought seemed the best course of action.
Because I STILL had no clue what they meant
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:04 am to dkreller
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Well not everyone is well versed in the thousands of laws and regulations.
I’m not either but confusing a populace already suffering from terrible education seems like cruelty.
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:04 am to DiamondDog
Im still being told that voting yes on amendment 1 would make abortions illegal in Louisiana.
Am I missing something, because thats not what i gather when i read it.
Am I missing something, because thats not what i gather when i read it.
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:05 am to DiamondDog
Well I have no idea what yours are but if yours are written likes ours they are sometimes hard to understand especially the yes or no aspect. There was one not too many years ago about gay couples and adoption, it was written in basically a quadruple negative style or that’s how my brain processed it. I’m still not sure that I voted how I wanted to.
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:05 am to DiamondDog
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Maybe they could write them at a 5th grade level to help these folks out. I’m convinced most don’t understand the questions and implications.
Again, I legit had issues with about 4 of them being a bit murky either way. I’m not texridder low IQ.
Heard quite a few in line talking about how confusing they were on the wording.
I mean, just kind of clean up the fricking wording isn’t a bad thing.
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:06 am to Wild Thang
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Man, I was still a tad confused on about 4 of them. JFC, write that shite a bit better. Pure political talk in some.
I marked them all down on a sample ballot like I’m 80 years old. Apparently once you turn 35 your sense of translating things from memory to machine becomes more challenging.
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:08 am to LSUnation78
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Im still being told that voting yes on amendment 1 would make abortions illegal in Louisiana.
Am I missing something, because thats not what i gather when i read it.
You are not missing anything. It does not make abortion illegal. That can't be done until Roe is overturned. Then LA laws would kick in and make it illegal. However there is a concern that the LA courts could find a right to abortion in the LA constitution. Thus the amendment.
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:10 am to BigJim
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:12 am to BigJim
Thanks, thats what I thought.
Well - essentially it was ensuring that courts couldnt decide funding was required (since roe v wade is law of the land).
Should roe v wade ever be overturned then then the piece about rights to even have one kicks in.
Well - essentially it was ensuring that courts couldnt decide funding was required (since roe v wade is law of the land).
Should roe v wade ever be overturned then then the piece about rights to even have one kicks in.
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:12 am to DiamondDog
They write them as confusing and convoluted as possible on purpose.
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:17 am to BigJim
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You are not missing anything. It does not make abortion illegal. That can't be done until Roe is overturned. Then LA laws would kick in and make it illegal. However there is a concern that the LA courts could find a right to abortion in the LA constitution. Thus the amendment.
My interpretation of it was it doesn’t matter if R v W is never overturned, but if it is, there is an amendment on the books that would outlaw it.
However, a yes vote would keep activist state judges from being able to try and make law via their judgements.
ETA: just reread your post, and we have the same conclusion
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 12:19 am
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:23 am to Wild Thang
Oh, and I know it wasn’t a CA, and it was straightforward, but I hope you fricks voted yes on Sports Gambling.
I gave up betting like 12 years ago, won’t step foot in a casino.
But if we are going to have casinos, why let the tax money leave to bet in MS? It’s beyond stupid!!
I gave up betting like 12 years ago, won’t step foot in a casino.
But if we are going to have casinos, why let the tax money leave to bet in MS? It’s beyond stupid!!
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:25 am to Wild Thang
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I mean, just kind of clean up the fricking wording isn’t a bad thing.
Lawyers gonna lawyer. Speak legalese so average people don’t understand.
Wish there was a law to keep lawyers from becoming politicians. I know we’d be much better off.
They already donate to judges races and then get hefty settlements from the same judge.
And people bitch about Citizens United?
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:30 am to Speckhunter2012
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Lawyers gonna lawyer. Speak legalese so average people don’t understand.
shite, I think they were using Latin for property taxes ( could have been the explanations I said I was reading ), don’t remember.
Sorry, I didn’t take Latin
you think a regular Louisiana Baw has?
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:36 am to DiamondDog
they write a lot of the amendments to confuse the voters.
they go in thinking they are supposed to vote no, when it's yes.
they go in thinking they are supposed to vote no, when it's yes.
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:40 am to SeeeeK
I am voting NO on all amendments. we need a new state constitution. (I did vote YES on the proposition.)
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:46 am to DiamondDog
As stated, I'm fairly well educated and versed in this stuff (probably pretty avg for this board)...and I make sure to read each amendment 3 times and think for a minute what im reading.
I get the context of the proposal, but The main problem is the overtly legal jargon causes you to second guess whether you are for or against it.
On that thought, using For/against would probably solve the issue instead if yes/no
I get the context of the proposal, but The main problem is the overtly legal jargon causes you to second guess whether you are for or against it.
On that thought, using For/against would probably solve the issue instead if yes/no
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 12:52 am
Posted on 10/24/20 at 1:02 am to SportTiger1
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On that thought, using For/against would probably solve the issue instead if yes/no
They do that to confuse the issue and try to get you to vote the way the writers want.
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