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re: I think it’s time for a pure blood check in thread.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:23 pm to gymnopedies13
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:23 pm to gymnopedies13
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Ugur Sahin is fully vaccinated for Covid. The quote you posted was taken out of context to make another false point:
Sorry if can't follow direct replies to a point YOU made, which wasn't about vaccination status at all, it was about the distinction between gene therapies and vaccines.
Feel free to list ALL vaccines that do NOT contain antigens, excluding the recent mRNA platform and/or viral vector treatments.
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And don't tell me Reuters is "fake news" or whatever. Dismissing the source is a bull shite argument.
You continue to preemptively defend your sources, which I certainly hadn't questioned...until now.
It's quite clear where you get your blatantly biased info when your last 3 have been Johns Hopkins (host of Bill Gates funded "Event 201"),
the New York Times, and now Reuters.
I don't dismiss them, but unlike yourself, I'm fully aware of their bias & the funding behind it.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:40 pm to Jack Daniel
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I think it’s time for a pure blood check in thread
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:43 pm to gymnopedies13
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Imagine how you've read bullshite stories by unqualified individuals who cherry picked data to make you think the Covid vaccines don't work.
It says after doing literally this exact thing to fail at proving it’s point.
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You antivaxers live and die by the correlation-causation fallacy.
You progressives are useless sheep that do whatever you’re told by people you’re stupid enough to listen to.
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These quacks played you for the suckers you are.
Have never and will never take any sort of covid “vaccine” and have never tested positive for covid. How exactly did I get played, progressive sheep?
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You'd all eat shite if "Robert Malone" told you to.
I make my own decisions.
You would lick my a-hole if fauci or cnn told you to.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:46 pm to 2020_reVISION
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Pfizer and Moderna’s mRNA vaccines do not contain antigens.
Case closed.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 2:37 pm to gymnopedies13
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ivermectin, which study after study shows is totally useless against Covid.
I thought you progressive nut jobs “trusted the science”
Why do you continue having to lie to attempt to defend your shitty vaccine your overlords convinced you would actually accomplish something?
Posted on 11/24/23 at 2:42 pm to gymnopedies13
People still die from 'common' flu as well. Your sad attempt to vilify anyone who dares questions the corporate science is telling.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 3:34 pm to 2020_reVISION
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You continue to preemptively defend your sources, which I certainly hadn't questioned...until now.
It's very typical for people to dismiss the source as their very first reply. Happens all day long here. Already happened to me plenty of times.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 3:36 pm to Open Your Eyes
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ivermectin, which study after study shows is totally useless against Covid.
I thought you progressive nut jobs “trusted the science”
Why do you continue having to lie to attempt to defend your shitty vaccine your overlords convinced you would actually accomplish something?
The science says ivermectin is useless against Covid.
Read here:
LINK
And here:
LINK .
Posted on 11/24/23 at 3:46 pm to Jack Daniel
Posted on 11/24/23 at 4:00 pm to gymnopedies13
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The science says ivermectin is useless against Covid.
Which strain(s) of Covid?
Posted on 11/24/23 at 4:26 pm to gymnopedies13
You were fooled idiot. Admit it.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 4:30 pm to MemphisGuy
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Which strain(s) of Covid?
All of them.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 4:32 pm to gymnopedies13
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All of them.
Ahhh... gotcha.
So the ONLY effective treatment for Covid is the vaccine, there simply are no others, in your opinion, would that be a correct statement? Or just that ivermectin is ineffective.
This post was edited on 11/24/23 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 11/24/23 at 4:36 pm to MemphisGuy
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Ahhh... gotcha.
So the ONLY effective treatment for Covid is the vaccine, there simply are no others, in your opinion, would that be a correct statement?
No.
The vaccine isn't a treatment for Covid. It's a preventative vaccine. It doesn't treat people with Covid.
As for treatment for people with Covid, there's Paxlovid, which lessens symptoms and speeds up recovery. There's also treatment with monoclonal antibodies, which Trump received when he had Covid in 2020. He probably would have died if he didn't.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 4:39 pm to gymnopedies13
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The vaccine isn't a treatment for Covid. It's a preventative vaccine. It doesn't treat people with Covid.
Sorry, I misspoke. I am aware the the vaccine isn't a treatment for Covid. It's a preventative that neither prevents one from getting Covid nor prevents one from transmitting Covid. But it's a preventative nonetheless. We might say it's an ineffective preventative, mightn't we?
Posted on 11/24/23 at 4:42 pm to MemphisGuy
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It's a preventative that neither prevents one from getting Covid nor prevents one from transmitting Covid
Oh it does. It's as effective as any vaccine out there. Just not 100% of the time.
Last I checked it prevents serious illness in about 85-90% of people, and prevents transmission about 60% of the time.
I think a big mistake people make about vaccines is assuming they prevent all illness and transmission 100% of the time, or not at all. That's not true for any vaccine. There is no vaccine that is 100% effective, even polio, measles, etc.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 4:48 pm to gymnopedies13
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Last I checked it prevents serious illness in about 85-90% of people, and prevents transmission about 60% of the time.
And yet it's the "only" way we will stop covid, right? And people who do NOT get vaccinated are literally putting other people's lives at risk, right?
A vaccine that at best prevents transmission only 60% of the time (if that). Transmission of a virus with a better than 99% survival rate. A virus that you can even have and not know you have because you literally have no symptoms. But you want everyone to get vaccinated...
Question, if it were up to you, would you literally force people to get vaccinated? Just curious.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:03 pm to MemphisGuy
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And yet it's the "only" way we will stop covid, right? And people who do NOT get vaccinated are literally putting other people's lives at risk, right?
A vaccine that at best prevents transmission only 60% of the time (if that). Transmission of a virus with a better than 99% survival rate. A virus that you can even have and not know you have because you literally have no symptoms. But you want everyone to get vaccinated...
Question, if it were up to you, would you literally force people to get vaccinated? Just curious.
Most vaccines prevent transmission about 60% of the time, while preventing serious illness about 90% of the time. The Covid vaccines are about as effective as any vaccine out there.
There's also other ways to prevent transmission, such as wearing a mask in crowded spaces.
The survival rate has been estimated at 97-99%, depending on which population is surveyed. Believe it or not, that's about same survival rate as the 1918 influenza, which was the last great pandemic.
And even with that survival rate, Covid still managed to kill over a million Americans. And after the vaccines became available, it killed over 250,000 people who would have survived if they were vaccinated, but they were too proud or too scared to get the shot.
No one has ever been "forced" to be vaccinated. It's always a choice. I know a guy who works in an ER in Georgia. He got fed up from hearing lectures from non-physicians coming in for other complaints when he told them they should get
vaccinated for Covid. He got tired of the lectures about how the shot didn't work, lectures about "spike proteins" and the 99% survival rate, and so on. So it happened one time too many, and he said to the vax refuser, "Go home and fricking die, then. I don't care. Your choice."
There's plenty of places in the world you can't travel to unless you have certain vaccinations. You can't even work at Fox News unless you are vaccinated for Covid, barring a valid medical reason. Religious exemptions are not granted because there is no religion that bars vaccination.
It takes a certain understanding to know how vaccines work within a population, and the cynical dismissal of the understanding that no vaccine is 100% effective resulted in over 250,000 Americans dying from a totally preventable disease.
Refusing a vaccine doesn't prove someone is smarter, or that they're tough, or that they even know the odds. It only shows they're afraid of vaccines.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:07 pm to gymnopedies13
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Refusing a vaccine doesn't prove someone is smarter, or that they're tough, or that they even know the odds. It only shows they're afraid of vaccines.
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