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re: I really hate the Jan 6 rioters

Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:50 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:50 am to
Brilliant, so you agree. There literally was nothing close to an insurrection, meaning the right has almost no control over what lies the left spins. So unless you are willing to concede we do literally nothing ever, we will carry on protesting, voting, campaigning, and fighting for our country. The world is watching.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:51 am to
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It doesnt even matter.

I think the level matters. A literal riot outside of the capitol with a specific purpose of threatening Pence to twirl his moustache is a bit different than pretty much anything you can use as an example.

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The double standard is there and we dont have to accept it.

You already lost this war decades ago. Conservatives invested in the wrong institutions and are paying the price today. You cannot win with brute force and have to be smarter. January 6 was the literal opposite of being smarter in every single way.

It was completely symbolic of the Trump movement trying to turn the Republican party into the lower class party of dumb, angry people. You want to make that what a "real conservative it" then you have to live with the choice (like living with the choices of investing in the wrong institutions).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:52 am to
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There literally was nothing close to an insurrection, meaning the right has almost no control over what lies the left spins


The left doesn't even have to spin a riot outside of the Capitol attempting the dumbest political strategy in centuries.

The story writes itself.

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So unless you are willing to concede we do literally nothing ever,

No. There are things to do that don't require rioting. Or anything violent. Or anything stupid. Or, hell, anything emotional.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:53 am to
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Same for Trump. After 4 years fending off lie after lie from the intel agencies and media, he gave them everything they wanted about how he is an insane dictator. Taking his challenges all the way to J6 was reckless and stupid.


Agree with all of this....it was beyond dumb and has given his enemies sufficient ammo to come after him. A massive unforced error and bi treason why I thought we should move beyond Trump this election cycle.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
646 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:53 am to
January 6th just showed how dumb people on both sides are. Both the people who traveled from around to country to hear another stupid rally speech and the people who "feared for their lives" because a bunch of hicks were walking through the halls .
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 7:58 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:55 am to
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Did none of you have parents who taught you the "if your friends all jumped from a bridge, would you jump too?" talk?


As a pretend Lawyer, I think you would be familiar with the term "entrapment".
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39504 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:56 am to
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It was completely symbolic of the Trump movement trying to turn the Republican party into the lower class party of dumb, angry people.


Its comments like this that cement your reputation as a myopic leftwing blowhard.

America watched the trashiest, most derelict, dregs of society burn cities, attack police, and even saw communist warlords annex parts of Seattle - but you are worried about Republicans being framed as low class over one protest? By who a-hole? The media? They were going to do that anyway.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:56 am to
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So you realize it’s fake but hate the people that are wrongly detained?


Well it sure did put these people in a world of hurt. They should have stayed home and watched TV at the local sports bar.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:57 am to
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As a pretend Lawyer, I think you would be familiar with the term "entrapment".

Entrapment is a dog that won't hunt in this scenario.

If that would work, in the manner you're using it, then all of those "terrorist" arrests during the War on Terror the now-Trump fans celebrated in the pats would have been thrown out. Or, now all of the "white Christian nationalist terrorists" being arrested today via similar designs.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39504 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:59 am to
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The left doesn't even have to spin a riot outside of the Capitol attempting the dumbest political strategy in centuries.


but they do it too. Over and over again. Where is your stern warnings for them? Why doesnt it hurt their cause?

I know why, because you are accepting the media's framing of everything (which is a 100% losers approach) instead of fighting back with alternative media, social media, podcasts ect.

Which is the entire point.
Posted by Motownsix
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Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:59 am to
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So you realize it’s fake but hate the people that are wrongly detained?


Fake? Like television actors?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:00 am to
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Its comments like this that cement your reputation as a myopic leftwing blowhard.


That comment was spot on.

Do you deny MAGA took over the Republican party?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39504 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:01 am to
The more information that comes out, the more the feds and the left look like the tyrants in this case.

But lets be honest, you dont really care because you are a dripping lefty and a "lawyer" that spends all of his waking hours on a message board.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39504 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:02 am to
That wasnt the question.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:03 am to
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America watched the trashiest, most derelict, dregs of society burn cities, attack police, and even saw communist warlords annex parts of Seattle - but you are worried about Republicans being framed as low class over one protest?


Always have to revert to Whataboutism

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260896 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:03 am to
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The more information that comes out, the more the feds and the left look like the tyrants in this case.


I have no doubt the Feds coopted the thing and set up J-6ers.

Its was easy to do. Y'all made it easy for them.

The GOP needs people who make better decisions, not fall into populist claptraps.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39504 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:04 am to
so fricking weak. way to avoid the point.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260896 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:06 am to
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nstead of fighting back with alternative media, social media, podcasts ect.


The great thing about alternative media is they always tell you what you want to hear.

The MSM sucks, but resorting to narratives created by influencers is even more dumb.\

Its a movement created by influencers and has no objective base.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 8:07 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260896 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:07 am to
u
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t lets be honest, you dont really care because you are a dripping lefty and a "lawyer" that spends all of his waking hours on a message board.


Lefties would support MAGA falling into traps.

Hes not doing that.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39504 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:08 am to
That's just your TDS talking. You know, deep down, that there would have been some other cooked up scandal to replace J6 if it hadn't happened. We got muh documents, muh election interference, muh E Jean Carroll, muh real estate values. You cant breathe without the left putting a scandal on you. There is a growing number of Americans that aren't going to hold their tongues anymore for fear of being cancelled by the left, that sentiment may come with some pain, but its the right path for the cause. Its long overdue.
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